Flying and federal laws

[Two Wings]

ok @carpro .

go tilt at a windmill elsewhere.

I gave you what you need to understand how to behave on a commercial airliner. I gave you the basis for the term to which you have a beef.

If the Captain is responsible, he has the authority. he has both. I strongly hope this is nothing more than keyboard warrioring on your part. I assure you good sir, if it goes beyond that to the airplane, you will not like the result of your education.

 

[KenH]

Unfortunately they don't back up your assertion that passengers, by federal law, have to obey any order given by a crew member.

It's not your property. If you don't want to obey their rules(governmental or not), then don't grab a ride on their property.

 

[Two Wings]

It's not your property. If you don't want to obey their rules(governmental or not), then don't grab a ride on their property.

I tell ya ... I'd love nothing more than for the entire flying public to boycott Thanksgiving air travel this year. protest at the airports ... demonstrate your opposition to these insane rules ... but don't do it on the airplane.

 

[carpro]

ok @carpro .

go tilt at a windmill elsewhere.

I gave you what you need to understand how to behave on a commercial airliner. I gave you the basis for the term to which you have a beef.

If the Captain is responsible, he has the authority. he has both. I strongly hope this is nothing more than keyboard warrioring on your part. I assure you good sir, if it goes beyond that to the airplane, you will not like the result of your education.

Evidently, I read what you posted more carefully than you did.

My suggestion to you is to not make concrete assertions of fact you can't back up.

 

[carpro]

It's not your property. If you don't want to obey their rules(governmental or not), then don't grab a ride on their property.

That, I can agree with.

But, as a paying customer, it doesn't mean I have to like being intimidated, threatened, and lied to by crew members over a "rule" I agreed to comply with when I bought my ticket.

 

[Two Wings]

Evidently, I read what you posted more carefully than you did.

My suggestion to you is to not make concrete assertions of fact you can't back up.

It is supported. Jist because you reject it doesnt make it so.

i suggest you give us a testimony of your assuredness of my error.

if youre not willing to do that, then you shouldnt be making challenges youre unwilling to support.

dont hold yer breath (mask on or not). Time to get work done elsewhere. My job here on this one is complete.

 

[JonC]

and that standard is woefully inadequate as I said. particularly for a life long disability resulting from an arbitrary mandate.

Sorry....I had to step away.

It may be inadequate. But if so then identify that as the problem, not employer rights.

 

[KenH]

But, as a paying customer, it doesn't mean I have to like being intimidated, threatened, and lied to by crew members.

So what? I don't like tons of stuff. You're not special in that regard.

 

[carpro]

It is supported. Jist because you reject it doesnt make it so.

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You really should read your own source before posting it.

 

[carpro]

So what? I don't like tons of stuff. Every human being I have ever met doesn't like tons of stuff. You're not special in that regard.

So, you agree that airline crew members should threaten, intimidate , and lie to passengers.

Got it.

You don't have to be "special" to speak out against it.

 

[KenH]

So, you agree that airline crew members should threaten, intimidate , and lie to passengers.

Got it.

Really, dude, you can't behave and follow rules, even if you don't like them, for two or three hours on someone else's airplane? Just charter a plane when you need to fly and avoid commercial flights if you won't follow their rules.

 

[carpro]

Really, dude, you can't behave and follow rules, even if you don't like them, for two or three hours on someone else's airplane? Just charter a plane when you need to fly and avoid commercial flights if you won't follow their rules.

LOL
I just stated above that I agreed to follow their rules when I bought my ticket.

You really should pay attention.

 

[KenH]

I just stated above that I agreed to follow their rules when I bought my ticket.

Then why in the world are you still arguing over it, then, dude?

 

[carpro]

Then why in the world are you still arguing over it, then, dude?

This thread is not about whether or not to obey the rules.

If you don't know the subject of the thread, why are you commenting at all?

 

[KenH]

This thread is not about whether or not to obey the rules.

Sure is a lot of argumentation going on, then, among various posters about it and the authority to have rules obeyed among passengers on a commercial airliner.

 

[carpro]

Sure is a lot of argumentation going on, then, among various posters about it and the authority to have rules obeyed among passengers on a commercial airliner.

I'm not responsible for the comments of others.

My point has consistently been that the rule requiring the wearing of masks, is not a "Federal Law".

If you believe it is, post the statute.

 

[KenH]

My point has consistently been that the rule requiring the wearing of masks, is not a "Federal Law".

When I wear a mask, I do it based on either the requirement of the business or the general practice of most people inside the business. I never get as far as federal law in my calculations.

 

[Reynolds]

In Georgia several health firms do require vaccinations. State laws fo not trump constitutional freedoms. Piedmont Health care, for example, requires a flu shot as a condition of employment.

Not only that - Georgia law allows for the health dept to mandate vaccines without exemptions.

But you still remain utterly confused. I am not sure what part you ate struggling with but your repeating false information does not make it true.

You are apparently ignorant concerning Georgia - which would be strange were it not for your general lack of comprehension on his thread concerning my view against forcing vaccinations.

Of course I do not advocate forcing vaccinations. That has been made very clear.

You are either ignorant or you are leveling false accusations against me by clever wording. Not sure which. Ga is a weird state when it deals with law. When a court strikes a section of a law, Ga leaves the law as written in OCGA, but enforcement is bound by the court guideline. Ga even leaves laws entirely struck by a court decision on the books. The health dept in Ga allows for religious exception to any vaccine mandate. I know because I send my kids to school. My kids pediatrician gave us a copy of the exemptions to the law you claim has no exemptions. Vaccines are mandatory in Ga schools. There are lots of unvaxed kids in Ga schools.

 

[carpro]

. I never get as far as federal law in my calculations.

Maybe that's because no one is repeatedly telling you wearing a mask is required by federal law.

Surely, when you are told something 4 times or more within an hour, it registers somewhere in your "calculations".

But, then again, maybe not.

 

[JonC]

You are either ignorant or you are leveling false accusations against me by clever wording. Not sure which. Ga is a weird state when it deals with law. When a court strikes a section of a law, Ga leaves the law as written in OCGA, but enforcement is bound by the court guideline. Ga even leaves laws entirely struck by a court decision on the books. The health dept in Ga allows for religious exception to any vaccine mandate. I know because I send my kids to school. My kids pediatrician gave us a copy of the exemptions to the law you claim has no exemptions. Vaccines are mandatory in Ga schools. There are lots of unvaxed kids in Ga schools.

I am not leveling false accusations against you.

I am saying that you have a position that employers should not have the right to require vaccinations as a condition of employment.

If that is false, then I misunderstood you and you have my apology. If that is true then what part of it seems such cleaver wording as to cause your confusion. It appears very basic to me.

Either you are willing to allow business owners to retain the rights they have or you are not. Pretty simple, dude.