Food stamp recipients panic as federal EBT system crashes;

[poncho]

I do not believe that is his intention. I do believe it was or perhaps I should say is an unintended consequence of the Republicans decision, before Obama was sworn in back in 2008, to oppose absolutely everything he proposed. They have done this, even to filibustering their own idea when the Democrats agreed.

There's a good reason for republican dissent. Everything he (Obama) proposed is anti American, anti free market and anti freedom. He is an international corporatist pretending to be an American that has overseen the greatest transfer of wealth from the working class and poor to the elite ruling class in the history of mankind. Talk about being pernicious.

Under the guise of socialism. Like I said earlier, socialism is a system of control to transfer wealth from the poor and working class to the elite ruling class. Socialism is merely the means to an end. Poverty and control. Poor depressed people that are dependent on government are easier to control than a prosperous people living in liberty.

I don't know of any such surveys. As I said, from my own volunteer experience. There are some who are very opposed to Obama and though they would not admit it, it is primary racial. But they do believe that those in need should be helped.

You just said you were in favor of unity but here you are in the same thread using the same race card that Obama and the democrats have used to divide us and further stir the pot of hate.

Personally, I would rather the gov. hold a gun to my head, as you say, to help those in need rather than hold a gun to my head so they can kill innocent people.

I would rather the government follow the constitution and not hold a gun to anyone's head for any reason. But hey if having a gun to your head is what motivates you into giving more I'm sure there's no one here that will argue that you don't have a right to hold a gun to your own head for motivational purposes.

A foreign policy of help would, IMHO, go further than a foreign polity of kill. I am not saying that war can never be avoided, but we are reaping the whirlwind of bad decisions in the past.

Obama and the democrats know just how you feel about that Crabby. That's why they frame their own military adventures as "humanitarian interventions" instead of the imperial pursuits they are.

This has been going on for years by both parties. It is finally catching up with us and the current crop of politicians are afraid to seriously address the problem.

Well yeah they ought to be afraid of addressing it they created the problem by letting a group of private bankers control the issuance of our money. Now they prefer to play dumb while the country sinks into depression and chaos.

But don't worry they have a contingency plan all lined up ready to be put into action the minute people realize what they've done to this country and why.

It's called a centralized cyber Stasi militarized big brother police state. Which I personally view as Lucifer's attempt to become omnipresent.

I am not sure what you mean here. Can you elaborate on this for me.

80 billion dollars a month is the price of ransom money we the people are being forced to fork over at gun point to an un elected un accountable international private banking cartel that is holding the country hostage under the threat of extreme economic duress if we don't pay them off. Better known as the banker bailouts.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

How about women preachers ?

How about the "many paths to the same God" approach ?

How about prosperity doctrines ?

 

[Zaac]

I think you need to read those chapters again. At least two of the churches were being rewarded for righteousness, and were not criticized. But you not knowing that isn't that surprising.

Sounds like you need to read it again. They aren't there any more so do the math.

 

[Zaac]

Please, a short list of what you see as "wickedness coming out of the church". I want to address it, point by point.

Umm, nope. I'm not in the habit of delivering God's truth and having folks try to build a case to justify why their behavior ain't wicked when His word says it is.

So you'll have to save that lil one-trick pony for someone else.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I'm not looking to justify it. What a cowardly thing to say.

I was wrong about you.

 

[Zaac]

I'm not looking to justify it. What a cowardly thing to say.

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You can call it whatever you like. Been there and done that and am full aware when someone just wants something else to breakdown and criticize.

If you don't see the wickedness coming out of the Church, ask God to reveal it to you.

I was wrong about you

Okay.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

You can call it whatever you like. Been there and done that and am full aware when someone just wants something else to breakdown and criticize.

If you don't see the wickedness coming out of the Church, ask God to reveal it to you.



Okay.

I think I've been pretty open and fair, with you, and have given you no reason to assume such nonsense.

Second, why is it you assume I see no evil ? I actually gave you a list of some of compromised positions I see, a mere 4 or 5 posts up.

 

[Zaac]

I think I've been pretty open and fair, with you, and have given you no reason to assume such nonsense.

I haven't asked for either openness or fairness. I deal with HOLY and righteous and know full well what your intentions were just as you know what they were so again, you can save that. Be just and aligned with God's word and you'll never have to try and be open and fair with me.

Second, why is it you assume I see no evil ? I actually gave you a list of some of compromised positions I see, a mere 4 or 5 posts up.

Because like good Baptists have been conditioned to do, you're talking issues and I'm talking wickedness. Wickedness that is fully displayed on this board and has been displayed DAILY.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

"many paths to God" isn't wickedness ? Are you crazy ?


You're just a bully, pure and simple. Emphasis on simple. See ya, Zaac.

 

[poncho]

Umm, nope. I'm not in the habit of delivering God's truth and having folks try to build a case to justify why their behavior ain't wicked when His word says it is.

So you'll have to save that lil one-trick pony for someone else.

God says "thou shalt not steal" and "thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain"

Yet here you and Crabby are telling us all how righteous y'all are to be taking the Lord's name in vain trying to convince us that stealing from some to give to others is Godly.

It isn't.

 

[Zaac]

"many paths to God" isn't wickedness ? Are you crazy ?


You're just a bully, pure and simple. Emphasis on simple. See ya, Zaac.

Yes I'm a bully because I can't be handled by you. :laugh:

 

[Zaac]

God says "thou shalt not steal" and "thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain"

Yet here you and Crabby are telling us all how righteous y'all are to be taking the Lord's name in vain trying to convince us that stealing from some to help others is Godly.

It isn't.

When have I said any such thing? That would be akin to me saying it's okay to vote for the Mormon because he's the lesser of two evils.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Yes I'm a bully because I can't be handled by you. :laugh:

Handled ? :laugh:

Please get over yourself.

 

[Zaac]

Handled ? :laugh:

Please get over yourself.

Apparently it's you who need to get over yourself. But I say again, don't try to play me when I already know what your intentions are.

That type of handling and manipulation must have worked for some of you in the past or something. :laugh:

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Apparently it's you who need to get over yourself. But I say again, don't try to play me when I already know what your intentions are.

That type of handling and manipulation must have worked for some of you in the past or something. :laugh:

My only intention was a point by point debate. The rest is in your mind, I promise you. You don't mean enough to me to try and play you. You've shown you're unwilling to debate. I accept that. Lets move on. If you're unwilling to tell me what I am guilty of, then I feel zero need to defend anything. You're mind is obviously as closed as the bible you're standing on.

 

[Zaac]

My only intention was a point by point debate. The rest is in your mind, I promise you. You don't mean enough to me to try and play you. You've shown you're unwilling to debate. I accept that. Lets move on.

Man I've told everyone on this board and you might as well hear it too. I'm not here to debate anybody about God's word. So ain't no need for me to be listing an array of wickedness coming out the church for you to debate point for point. It is what it is and you trying to debate around it to make it otherwise wouldn't change it.

If you're unwilling to tell me what I am guilty of, then I feel zero need to defend anything. You're mind is obviously as closed as the bible you're standing on.

And let's not start feigning ignorance now.

 

[poncho]

When have I said any such thing? That would be akin to me saying it's okay to vote for the Mormon because he's the lesser of two evils.

Taking Romney's name in vain is a bit different than taking God's name in vain Zaac.

 

[preacher4truth]

Handled ? :laugh:

Please get over yourself.

Agreed.

It's sad to watch one who claims to fight wickedness in the church, when the greater wickedness is his own self-righteousness.

You already know this Bro. Curtis, but you my friend are wasting your time with this guy.

Peace.

 

[Zaac]

Taking Romney's name in vain is a bit different than taking God's name in vain Zaac.

And you haven't seen me take God's name in vain. I'm still waiting for you to show me where I said it's okay to steal from one person to give to another? I'm about as anti-wealth redistribution as they come. :laugh:

God's word says that if you don't work, you don't eat. That doesn't mean that HE doesn't still direct me to feed you if you're hungry.

I'm just anti-being told I HAVE to feed you. :laugh:

 

[Zaac]

Agreed.

It's sad to watch one who claims to fight wickedness in the church, when the greater wickedness is his own self-righteousness.

You already know this Bro. Curtis, but you my friend are wasting your time with this guy.

Peace.

Well hello to you too. I do love how the truth is often times dismissed as self-righteousness by the very ones spreading a degree of wickedness that stinks up to God's nostrils.

I've got about as much time for your foolishness as SN does.