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For God so loved the world
- Thread starter King James Bond
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Hey Bob
I didn't quote ISLAM. But I expect nothing else from someone who doesn't honor God's Word and denies Jesus at every turn.
Your confusion still reigns. Have you figured out justification yet?
BTW what are you doing in this thread since you don't understand the word "love" either?
Oh yeah - I forgot. It goes rather handily with ignore context.
Lloyd
I didn't quote ISLAM. But I expect nothing else from someone who doesn't honor God's Word and denies Jesus at every turn.
Your confusion still reigns. Have you figured out justification yet?
BTW what are you doing in this thread since you don't understand the word "love" either?
Oh yeah - I forgot. It goes rather handily with ignore context.
Lloyd
BobRyan
Well-Known Member
I quote John Gill, God in Gen 3 and Adam Clark HERE
http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1543/16.html#000236
Lloyd appeals to “Islamics” in his immediate response HERE (As he ducks every point made in the previous post and the sources used)
http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1543/16.html#000237
Saying
To which we get …. Obfuscation in response (plus more ranting of course).
How “unexpected”.
http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1543/16.html#000236
Lloyd appeals to “Islamics” in his immediate response HERE (As he ducks every point made in the previous post and the sources used)
http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1543/16.html#000237
Saying
I call him on that CONTRAST between my appeal to God in Gen 3 and John Gill and Adam Clark on that SAME point -- vs – Lloyds appeal to the Islamic view of Christians in that post above.
To which we get …. Obfuscation in response (plus more ranting of course).
How “unexpected”.
Hey BobRyan
I'm glad that you included that link to my post. Any reader can see my comment in context.
BTW I am still awaiting your response to justification in the thread Event vrs Process Justification.
A lexical analysis shows:
__ Justification is an EVENT
__ God alone is active in justification
__ Humans are strictly passive in justification.
Your process model is summatively rejected through a pre-101 theology analysis of God's Word. It takes a lot of theologizing to convert a Christ-centered message of hope into a human-centered message of death and despair.
Lloyd
I'm glad that you included that link to my post. Any reader can see my comment in context.
BTW I am still awaiting your response to justification in the thread Event vrs Process Justification.
A lexical analysis shows:
__ Justification is an EVENT
__ God alone is active in justification
__ Humans are strictly passive in justification.
Your process model is summatively rejected through a pre-101 theology analysis of God's Word. It takes a lot of theologizing to convert a Christ-centered message of hope into a human-centered message of death and despair.
Lloyd
Good exegesis Ascund!! I see all through this thread where Bob fails to see that the love in John 3:16 is qualitative not quantitative. This is how he loves the world. Unfortunatley Bob cannot see this for it would cause him to be incorrct and prideful Arminians just cannot deal with that.
Hey Timothy27
Thanks! I am so thrilled by a positive comment that I now see more clearly the destructive ramifications from those who deny Christ's ministries on behalf of us repeat offenders who have trusted fully in His life/death/resurrection.
I realize that it is incumbent upon us to follow your lead in the area of encouragement in the true faith in Jesus Christ - alone!
A simple thanks is all I can do but please know that such encouragement goes far beyond those simple words.
Lloyd
Thanks! I am so thrilled by a positive comment that I now see more clearly the destructive ramifications from those who deny Christ's ministries on behalf of us repeat offenders who have trusted fully in His life/death/resurrection.
I realize that it is incumbent upon us to follow your lead in the area of encouragement in the true faith in Jesus Christ - alone!
A simple thanks is all I can do but please know that such encouragement goes far beyond those simple words.
Lloyd
Jarthur,
I just got in again...been away. What is Faith...? I don't have time for the full and desired answer. However having finalized this answer in my study a few years ago I came up with the opposite answer of most...and may be considered a heretic for it...
Faith in a human is "the works of Christ imputted to me".
Do I hear jeers...sorry. ...perhaps I will have time to reiterate later. Sorry Jarthur I don't time today. Thanks so much for the time it took to reply above.
I just got in again...been away. What is Faith...? I don't have time for the full and desired answer. However having finalized this answer in my study a few years ago I came up with the opposite answer of most...and may be considered a heretic for it...
Faith in a human is "the works of Christ imputted to me".
Do I hear jeers...sorry. ...perhaps I will have time to reiterate later. Sorry Jarthur I don't time today. Thanks so much for the time it took to reply above.
It depends on what you mean be "imputted to me". If you mean it comes by hearing, I agree. If you claim faith is a gift only given to some, I disagree. I'll stick to the Bible's definition of faith, that it is the substance of things hoped for, things not seen. Faith comes be hearing (understanding) and hearing (understanding) from the Word of God.
Hey Webdog
I sort of think both you and Remnant have got most of it. I think "the works of Christ imputed to me" happens by hearing the preaching of the Word and involves an active decision of faith in Jesus Christ.
Anything beyond this LOOK of faith for justification must be resolutely rejected.
The topic is so critical that it is hard to say precisely without equivocation just what you mean. It is far easier to define it by using negatives - - sort of what we do with the definition of God.
Lloyd
I sort of think both you and Remnant have got most of it. I think "the works of Christ imputed to me" happens by hearing the preaching of the Word and involves an active decision of faith in Jesus Christ.
Anything beyond this LOOK of faith for justification must be resolutely rejected.
The topic is so critical that it is hard to say precisely without equivocation just what you mean. It is far easier to define it by using negatives - - sort of what we do with the definition of God.
Lloyd