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Forty One Years and Fifty Five Million

Forty One Years and Fifty Five Million

  • Abortion at any stage is murder and a sin against God

    Votes: 30 90.9%

  • I have no problem with Abortion

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • The Courts have spoken and that settles the issue

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • The woman has the right to decide what to do with her body

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • I have no problem with early abortions.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
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Yeshua1

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Amy.G said:
Rape is a horrible thing. But why is it not murder to abort a baby whose mother was raped?
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Would that be murder in states that voted to not allow for it, but not in states that decided to allow for it then?

just saying issue not as black and white as "court overturns roe v wade/abortion now illegal!"
 
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Amy.G

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Yeshua1 said:
Would that be murder in states that voted to not allow for it, but not in states that decided to allow for it then?

just saying issue not as black and white as "court overturns roe v wade/abortion now illegal!"
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My question was directed at the posters on this thread that said they approve abortions in the cases of incest and rape. It's a moral question, not legal.
 
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Yeshua1

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Amy.G said:
My question was directed at the posters on this thread that said they approve abortions in the cases of incest and rape. It's a moral question, not legal.
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agree with you that God is author of life, so he was the one that allowed life to be formed, and only he can stop it!
 
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OldRegular

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Thousand Hills said:
To pull a page from QF's playbook

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Don't know if its been posted here or not, but here is an interesting story about Auburn's 2013 Homecoming Queen:

http://blog.al.com/montgomery/2013/10/auburns_100th_homecoming_queen.html
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A wonderful story. I believe I saw this lovely young lady on the Megan Kelly show. She was a very impressive young lady. I also think I posted another link where she talks about her experience and how she wound up in Alabama!

This young lady is black, It shows how far the people of the South have changed in the last 50 years or so. Sadly abortion is decimating the black community:

Do you know what the leading cause of death in the African American Community since 1973 is? Think about it for a minute. Is it heart disease-2,266,789 deaths since 1973, cancer-1,638,350, or accidents-370,723? Is it AIDS-203,695, or violent crimes-306, 313? There is one possibility that is often overlooked. It happens 1452 times a day in our community. It has taken over 13 million Black lives within the last 30 years. It has taken 1/3 of our present population. What is it? ABORTION!

Don't believe it? Well, you don't have to, but you would be a fool not to because the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has provided the tragic statistics. According to the CDC, since 1973, the year of the Supreme Court Decision Roe vs. Wade, 13 million (13,000,000) African American lives have been lost to abortion. The CDC reports that of the approximately 4000 abortions that are performed daily in the United States, 1452 of them are performed on African American women and their pre-born children. This means that although African Americans represent only 12% of the population of the United States, they account for 35% of the abortions performed in this country.

http://www.nbccongress.org/features/...no_more_01.asp
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OldRegular

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Yeshua1 said:
Would that be murder in states that voted to not allow for it, but not in states that decided to allow for it then?

just saying issue not as black and white as "court overturns roe v wade/abortion now illegal!"
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It is a black and white issue. Murder is murder!
 
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OldRegular

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Yeshua1 said:
We were founded as a Republic, and as such, this issue should NEVER have been decided by the SC, but Congress should have had it debated and settled at state level, per a republic, the citixens of each state would vore and decide what abortion woulod be allowed, if at all!

IF roe v wade was ever overturned by SC, would NOT eliminate abortion, but would have the issue decided by each state!
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If a Constitutional Convention is called, and there is some interest in calling one, I hope that due process will be extended to the unborn and abortion will be illegal!
 
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OldRegular

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saturneptune said:
No, it would not stop it, but it would reduce it. States like the one I live in and to the South would outlaw it, and if one wants to kill their child, take it to a state that has no respect for life. They can either travel west to the coast or to the northeast.
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Ney York, New York a wonderful place with Gov. Komo!
 
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quantumfaith

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Amy.G said:
I'll probably be pounded for saying this but I don't believe abortion is ok if rape or incest is involved. That child is still a child and murdering him is still murder.
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I won't pound you....I feel the same way. But I do realize that we live a "non-theocracy" culture. I will always vote for the most restrictive abortion "rights". I just do not see that much of a cultural swing making such restrictions law.

If my wife were raped, I would offer my input, but I would also leave the final say so for her do decide in her own heart.
 
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OldRegular

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OldRegular said:
A wonderful story. I believe I saw this lovely young lady on the Megan Kelly show. She was a very impressive young lady. I also think I posted another link where she talks about her experience and how she wound up in Alabama!

This young lady is black, It shows how far the people of the South have changed in the last 50 years or so. Sadly abortion is decimating the black community:
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Actually it was Fox and Friends. This young lady's story is well worth listening to!

http://video.foxnews.com/v/27468749...s-inspirational-abortion-story/#sp=show-clips
 
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quantumfaith

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Just speaking from a pragmatic point of view. As I see it, the best that could be hoped for is a return to states rights on such issues of "culture". Allowing states to legislate their own position on abortions could perhaps significantly reduce such. We will, obviously I think, eliminate abortion. We should as believers make our case and position known with love and grace. We should also follow it up with sincere support, as in serious and credible opportunities for such children to be adopted into loving homes.

If we do not provide such love and grace, our platitudes against abortion will always ring hollow to a culture which does not know and experience the love and grace that we know in or relationship with Christ.
 
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OldRegular

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quantumfaith said:
I won't pound you....I feel the same way. But I do realize that we live a "non-theocracy" culture. I will always vote for the most restrictive abortion "rights". I just do not see that much of a cultural swing making such restrictions law.

If my wife were raped, I would offer my input, but I would also leave the final say so for her do decide in her own heart.
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Life poses some tough choices. The young black lady who became Auburn Homecoming queen was conceived as the result of rape. Her birth mother traveled from California to Alabama and gave the child for adoption.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/27468749...s-inspirational-abortion-story/#sp=show-clips
 
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Yeshua1

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convicted1

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I once worked with a woman who was raped and she decided to have the baby. She is now a full grown woman.

A true mother, irregardless the situation, would want to choose her baby's life over her's. Whether she is under duress and had a chance of dying, she'd choose her baby over herself.

Too many women are "incubators" and not mothers. Major difference. I am appalled at what our country has come to.
 
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Jkdbuck76

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Salty said:
I agree 100% !!!



Is it possible that of those 32 views - that would include multiple views by the same folks?

But over all - you are correct - it is sad -

When you remain silent - you have spoken
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Or maybe some of us are viewing this page on Tappatalk and cannot even see polls.
 
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OldRegular

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Judith said:
I choose number 1 and number 4.
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A woman can do what she wants with her body. It is that baby she may be carrying that is a problem.

Of course the argument that a woman can do what she wants with her body is false. What happens to a woman who attempts suicide?
 
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jbh28

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Amy.G said:
Rape is a horrible thing. But why is it not murder to abort a baby whose mother was raped?
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It is. I'm not sure why anyone would think that rape would be an excuse to kill the baby. There is a human life inside the mother. To stop that life is killing the human, which we call murder.
 
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