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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by OldRegular, Jan 21, 2014.

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Forty One Years and Fifty Five Million

  1. Abortion at any stage is murder and a sin against God

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  2. I have no problem with Abortion

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  3. The Courts have spoken and that settles the issue

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  4. The woman has the right to decide what to do with her body

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  5. I have no problem with early abortions.

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  1. OldRegular

    OldRegular Well-Known Member

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    It has been 41 years since the seven black robed men of the US Supreme Court pronounced the death sentence on the most innocent of humans, Since that time over 55 million unborn babies have been slaughtered for the convenience of the woman and the profit of the abortionist; an average of more than 3600 babies each day!.

    In 2012 the horror of abortion was celebrated at the democrat national convention which renominated the most rabid abortion advocate in public life, Barak Hussein Obama. Last year this horror was amplified in the trial of one Kermit Gosnell, a Philadelphia abortionist.

    There are some on this Forum who support abortion because they support the party of death, the democrat party. They will insist otherwise!

    Some may think this belongs on the Politics Forum, but the slaughter of unborn children is a religious and moral issue. Too many professing Christians have remained mute for 41 years either because they approve or simply don't care.
     
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  2. quantumfaith

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    I am appalled at the level of abortion in our country and world. I don't see how it could be anything other than morally wrong. However, living in a pluralistic and not a theocratic social order, I must force myself to settle for some things I find detestable. I, if I could make the rules, permit abortion only in cases of rape, incest and life of mother. I also think, our federal government has "usurped" WAY too much power over the states. Issues (hot button) like abortion should be left to each state. Abortion as a means of birth control, or birth selection and especially late term procedures should be illegal in my opinion.
     
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  3. Salty

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    I voted: a woman has a right over her body

    BUT she has no MORAL right over the body of her soon to be born child.


    When someone gives me that silly EXCUSE about a right over her body -

    I state - I AM SO GLAD YOU ARE AGAINST THE SEAT BELT LAW!!!
     
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  4. OldRegular

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    The baby is a totally different person that the mother! I would suggest that anyone who is interested read the following short articles published in "Acts and Facts" a publication of the Institute for Creation Research. It is really fascinating!

    Made in His Image: Human Gestation by Randy J. Guliuzza, P.E., M.D.

    From: http://www.icr.org/article/made-his-image-human-gestation/
     
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  5. OldRegular

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    At this point in time 32 people have viewed this thread but only 6 have voted in the poll. This demonstrates what I said in the OP:
    That is very sad!
     
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  6. Salty

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    I agree 100% !!!

    Is it possible that of those 32 views - that would include multiple views by the same folks?

    But over all - you are correct - it is sad -

    When you remain silent - you have spoken
     
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  7. OldRegular

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    At this point 112 have visited but only 15 expressed their opinion in the poll. That is very sad!
     
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  8. OldRegular

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    I don't believe so. I have visited more than once, obviously, but the count does not go up. Possibly that is only for the originator of the thread. You might check me out.

    One visitor has no problem with abortion. Frankly I do not understand how a "follower of Jesus Christ" can tolerate the slaughter of 55,000,000+ and increasing by ~3,600 each day! But then I do not understand why so many will not express their belief about this needless slaughter.
     
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  9. OldRegular

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    My wife and I are the parents of three children. Two are adopted, the last in 1969 only 4 years before Roe v Wade. Each of our children have given us two wonderful grandchildren who have made growing old not only bearable but a pleasure. It is a sad fact that after that terrible decision by 7 black robed men adoption has been difficult if not impossible.

    This past Sunday, at the age of almost 83, I held my first Great Grandchild, a little girl, only 12 hours old. I looked at her, with tears in my eyes, and wondered how anyone, especially a professing Christian, could condone the slaughter of these babies. But they do and some denominations have strongly endorsed abortion just as they have the homosexual life style.

    The Roman Catholic Communion gets a lot of grief on this Forum but they have taken a strong stand from the beginning against abortion, though many RCC politicians are rabid abortion supporters. The development of a pro life stance in the SBC developed slowly:

     
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    134 people have viewed the thread yet only 17 have voted in the poll. That is very sad and I believe typifies the view of many professing Christians. They simply don't care.

    Havensdad has a new thread: New Documentary: Babies are Murdered Here. It is murder folks. Actually murder is not adequate to describe the late term abortions. Slaughter is more descriptive and correct. If animals were treated this way people would be up in arms! It is very sad! Take a look "brothers and sisters" and the person who has no problem with abortion!

    http://www.christiangallery.com/smdead.html

    http://www.100abortionpictures.com/Aborted_Baby_Pictures_Abortion_Photos/

    http://www.toomanyaborted.com

    I challenge any Christian on this Forum to examine the Grand Jury report on the abortionist Gosnell, identified in the OP.

    http://www.toomanyaborted.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/GrandJuryWomensMedical.pdf
     
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  11. Amy.G

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    I'll probably be pounded for saying this but I don't believe abortion is ok if rape or incest is involved. That child is still a child and murdering him is still murder.
     
    #11 Amy.G, Jan 22, 2014
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    I'm with you; acceptable only in extremely rare circumstances
     
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  13. OldRegular

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    I agree Amy and God Bless you!

    The child is still a child and had absolutely nothing to do with their conception. Also it is a medical fact that it is extremely rare for a mother's life to be endangered by pregnancy these days. However, I do appreciate very much quantumfaith's response. He and I often disagree but he always responds as a gentle Christian, something I do not always do.

    Sadly most on this "Baptist" Forum will not even participate in the poll
     
    #13 OldRegular, Jan 22, 2014
  14. Thousand Hills

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    To pull a page from QF's playbook

    :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

    Don't know if its been posted here or not, but here is an interesting story about Auburn's 2013 Homecoming Queen:

    http://blog.al.com/montgomery/2013/10/auburns_100th_homecoming_queen.html
     
    #14 Thousand Hills, Jan 22, 2014
  15. Amy.G

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    Yes he does. He is always gracious.
     
    #15 Amy.G, Jan 22, 2014
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    Abortion is just legalized murder, although I think it should be legal ONLY in the case of rape and if the woman's life could be lost if she carries the baby to term.
     
    #16 Jon-Marc, Jan 22, 2014
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    We were founded as a Republic, and as such, this issue should NEVER have been decided by the SC, but Congress should have had it debated and settled at state level, per a republic, the citixens of each state would vore and decide what abortion woulod be allowed, if at all!

    IF roe v wade was ever overturned by SC, would NOT eliminate abortion, but would have the issue decided by each state!
     
    #17 Yeshua1, Jan 22, 2014
  18. Amy.G

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    Rape is a horrible thing. But why is it not murder to abort a baby whose mother was raped?
     
    #18 Amy.G, Jan 22, 2014
  19. saturneptune

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    No, it would not stop it, but it would reduce it. States like the one I live in and to the South would outlaw it, and if one wants to kill their child, take it to a state that has no respect for life. They can either travel west to the coast or to the northeast.
     
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    I agree with you as a final goal, but I would be for any law or court ruling that reduced the rate of abortion, no matter what form. We can go back later and change the law to reduce it further.
     
    #20 saturneptune, Jan 22, 2014
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