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.Just because he died for all...does not mean all will accept the free gift! He made salvation possible for all! But only a few will accept! We do not go to hell because we sin...we go to hell because we reject Jesus Christ!
He still died for all..the world...but only a few will recieve
If you tell the man that paid the fine...thanks but no thanks! I will work my own way out! That is refusing his payment!.
Then you don't believe Jesus ACTUALLY paid for anything.
If you pay the judge for a man's fine for the crime he committed, whether the criminal "accepts" it or not, he CANNOT go to jail for the crime that has been paid for. Plain and simple. Either justice is TRULY satisfied or it is not.
So the question is did Jesus TRULY satisfy the justice of God for EVERY sinner?
If he ACTUALLY paid the fine- then that's it. It is done. The man cannot go to hell for sins that have paid for.
If you tell the man that paid the fine...thanks but no thanks! I will work my own way out! That is refusing his payment!
If you tell the man that paid the fine...thanks but no thanks! I will work my own way out! That is refusing his payment!
and apologized to God first for not believing his word and then apologized to Spurgeon for trying to argue a point of his message.
If someone refuses the payment that was offered to pay the fine! ANd choses to work toward the payment himself. Then they refused it/Jesus payment! Jesus offered the same for all! But not all accepted his sacrifice on their behalf. They are trying to do it their way..works!Then you are not actually PAYING the fine. Do you see?
You are not paying the fine. You are saying that Jesus ACTUALLY paid the fine.
through 1 man(Christ) ALL SHALL BE MADE RIGHTEOUS. Romans 5-19
Because it was God's plan.This question still bothers me in regards to election...
Why must we preach the gospel in order for people to be saved? If man plays no part at all in his conversion, why must he hear the gospel to be saved, as Paul says he must in Romans 10:14?
According to God, yes. We are all totally depraved until God cleans us up.Can our preaching have any persuasive power over one who is totally depraved?
Because it was God's plan.
1 Cor 1:21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
According to God, yes. We are all totally depraved until God cleans us up.
through 1 man(Christ) ALL SHALL BE MADE RIGHTEOUS. Romans 5-19
I didn't "bail" out. I dusted my feet. There's a difference.
Will anybody other than satan and his angels spend eternity in the lake of fire?
Could Revelation 20:15 be any clearer?
through 1 man(Christ) ALL SHALL BE MADE RIGHTEOUS. Romans 5-19
think upon this again--think if God concluded ALL under Sin(through 1 man's disobedience)he did so that he might have mercy upon ALL(through 1 man's obedience)its true God chooses some in each generation for his purpose and Glory to shine unto the world to see--but the Glorius truth is that through 1 man's obedience MANY(all) SHALL BE MADE righteous--either in this life or after death they will come through the FIRE in repentance unto Christ--others reject this truth--but the text is very clear that ALL SHALL BE MADE(Future tense statement that will be accomplished)RIGHTEOUS
Many through 1 man were made(past tense statement that was accomplished through 1 man)SINNERS
Many through 1 man shall be made(future tense statement that will be accomplished in God;s time)RIGHTEOUS
Christ came to undo what Adam brought forth unto all mankind--men want to try and make adam's transgression more powerful than Crist's Atonement--but they are only fooling themselves with false tradition--but its plainly taught that what was lost in Adam was regained in Christ:godisgood:
^^This could be akin to the "serpent seed doctrine" that states that Eve and Lucifer had intercourse and then Adam and Eve. Abel was the son of Adam and Cain was the son of Lucifer. Those who fell in Adam, and subsequently, Abel, Christ atoned for, and those who were after the lineage of Cain, are the non-elect, period. He is quite hard to peg. Is he an ME'er, or is he a "serpent seeder", or a hybrid of both?
And these are just three posts of his that he has been throwing around here.
I didn't "bail" out. I dusted my feet. There's a difference.
HW keeps saying what I consider to universalism, and that no one will die lost, imo. He's advocating the ME doctrine, and that christians will suffer in hell, even if for 1,000 years. Now, I am "amill" to the core, so the MK doctrine is something I don't agree with, whatsoever. But to say that some christians will suffer torment in hell, is unfathomable.
IOW, I was directing that question towards him. Sorry about the cornfusion.
If someone refuses the payment that was offered to pay the fine! ANd choses to work toward the payment himself. Then they refused it/Jesus payment! Jesus offered the same for all! But not all accepted his sacrifice on their behalf. They are trying to do it their way..works!
And you are right! If we do not accept Jesus payment for the fine! We will never be able to pay the price ourself! So we are doomed forever!
all I have given that you post is plain scripture that plainly states what I posted--because you reject God's word--you try and come up with utter foolishness that I never posted or do not even believe.
here again you are as the scribes of Christ day that would try and trap him in words or deeds,and try and prove that what he was saying was against the law of moses and against God,but you do nothing but spit out utter foolishness of things I never say--because you are so confused inside,you know nothing else to do but just that--Bless you brother :tear::tear: