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George Floyd incident with Derek Chauvin, not guilty IMO

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Scott Downey, Mar 16, 2021.

  1. Salty

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    Was the ENTIRE situation on video tape - or just when the LEO were taking (possible) defensive measures.
    Do we know what resistance Floyd was giving.

    Let ALL the facts come out in the trial

    and the same goes for Cuomo. It appears he is guilty of sexual assualt
    in spite of him denying anywrong doing - so let the investagation be completed
    and proceede with the trial
     
  2. Scott Downey

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    He resisted every step of the way with the police, right from the very beginning. The police were being very gentle for the first part of the arrest. and he is refusing to get in the police car. so half in the car, he starts saying he cant breathe, so they pull him out. and he continues to fight and resist the authority of the police.
    EXCLUSIVE - FULL VIDEO: Leaked police bodycam footage shows George Floyd's arrest for the first time - YouTube
     
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    I really don't expect Chauvin to receive a fair trial in Minneapolis at all - the lefty Muslim Keith Elison is in charge of the prosecution and they probably won't give him a change of venue, even though the city settled with the Floyd family for 27M dollars. The jury is being seated right now.

    If I were Chauvin, I'd be hoping for a hung jury, just takes one. With a reasonable jury, there's two things you people screaming for conviction need to overcome - the fact that the chokehold was standard police procedure and all the drugs in his system. The county coroner said if GF had died at home, it would have been ruled a death by overdose.
     
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    For the last 2:45 seconds he was unconscious, unresponsive and had no discernible pulse while the officer knelt on his neck.

    I’d say that makes it impossible for Mr. Floyd to have resisted “every step of the way”.

    Police are allowed to use reasonable restraint on a subject in custody.

    It is completely unreasonable to use any kind of restraint on a man that you know is unconscious, unresponsive and with no discernible pulse.

    peace to you
     
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    Probably the fatal dose of fentanyl in his system kicking in. Knee on side of neck did not suffocate the man, but drugs will suffocate you, stop your breathing and add in the stress of being arrested.
    Did the cop know he was unconscious, or just quieting down as a deception tactic. They still consider suspects on the ground as dangerous, even if quiet.
     
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    Right, Scott, and don't forget George had meth in his system, drug cocktails can be confusing to outsiders.

    Neck had no damage and it's about impossible to choke to death with someone putting a knee on the back of your neck. If this cop had done that to Prince, he would still be alive today, he choked on his own vomit.
     
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    There is no reasonable explanation for the officer to stay on his neck knowing he is unconscious, unresponsive and no discernible pulse.

    Why did he do that? The prosecution will claim he intended to kill Mr. Floyd. He knew he had no pulse. He wanted him to die.

    The defense will explain why he stayed on his neck by saying......????? They won’t offer a real explanation because there is no good answer.

    The autopsy won’t matter. The drugs in his system won’t matter. All the other allegations against Mr. Floyd won’t matter.

    All that will matter is the jury will watch the officer kneeling on his neck, with a smirk on his face, for seven minutes while Mr. Floyd begged for his life and then for another 2:45 seconds while he knows Mr.Floyd had no discernible pulse.

    Peace to you
     
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    Another officer told him Mr. Floyd had no discernible pulse. He stayed in his neck for another 2:45 seconds.

    peace to you
     
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    City also paid out 27 million to Floyd's family, that large amount has caused 2 jurors to be kicked off the jury, as it influenced them to favor conviction, as why else would the city pay out so much money unless guilty of murder. I honestly dont think defendant can get a fair trial in this city with any jury.

    Derek Chauvin trial: Judge excuses 2 previously selected jurors because of news of George Floyd family settlement – Twin Cities
     
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    You are probably right about that. The jury pool has been influenced by the settlement.

    peace to you
     
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    But would you want to be a lone juror who hung this jury in that environment? It would take a brave soul indeed to buck the system in this case.

    The vicious bloodthirst of the Progressive Left makes the imagined worst about Chauvin look saintly, and they are on the warpath.
     
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    Has nothing to do with this case.

    peace to you
     
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    You are dealing with two different things. Remember, you stated that the officer murdered George Floyd. That's a very big accusation and one that is demonstrably false. That does not deal with whether or not the officer acted properly. Those are two very different issues.
     
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    IMO, Floyd murdered himself.
    you cant live with such a lifestyle as he had very long.
     
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    Wrong. Or should I say, dead wrong?
     
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    It was ridiculous that the city did this. First off, 27 million? For what exactly? Second, even if there were to be a need for a settlement it should have come after a trial and after all facts come out.
     
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    They didn't care, it's tax-payer money. Already two jurors quit because they say the settlement would have influenced them in the verdict. Mistake to do it before the criminal trial, but I think crooked Elison was trying to "set the table", if you know what I mean.

    I'm not going to get into the specifics anymore on whether Chauvin is guilty or not or of what. I'll predict either a third degree conviction (which will be appealed and probably overturned) or a hung jury (retried), or. less likely, an acquittal. All three scenarios will cause more rioting.
     
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    ... and the Police should stand down and let the Mayor handle it. ;)
     
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    Except that the officer took responsibility for the man as soon as he removed the man's ability to act. That is where the officer can be said to have contributed to his death (the "what it's come into play....what if medical personnel were called the first time Floyd complained of not being able to breathe.. things like that).
     
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