George Floyd incident with Derek Chauvin, not guilty IMO

[Scott Downey]

We told you so: The George Floyd incident

Candace Owens
@RealCandaceO

Minnesota withheld the full #GeorgeFloyd body cam footage for one reason and one reason only: they knew it would immediately dispel the race narrative and they wanted to assist the Democrats in dividing Americans in an election year. Absolutely appalling.

 

[Salty]

https://www.scribd.com/document/464...CydYiSW8oA-IzSXGtsDAZYcnjt3k0u_Olcp4z-9UlJRyU

 

[canadyjd]

The officer knelt on Mr. Floyd’s neck for 2:45 seconds after being told he was unconscious, unresponsive and had no discernible pulse.

Nothing else will matter.

peace to you

 

[atpollard]

Nothing else will matter.

Foolish, unnecessary and lacking in empathy ... but not the cause of death.

(The fact that is not what killed him sort of DOES matter.)

 

[Scarlett O.]

The officer knelt on Mr. Floyd’s neck for 2:45 seconds after being told he was unconscious, unresponsive and had no discernible pulse.

Nothing else will matter.

peace to you

I watched all the videos - there were four from different angles and places.

As much as I love and revere the police force, this particular policeman murdered George Floyd. Not premeditated....but with a total and reckless disregard for human life.

I know that will not make me popular here at the BB, but it is what I saw.

I've listened to people say that it didn't matter one whit because Floyd was a criminal, a drug user, and "resisting" arrest. That's very sad to me.

I have people in my family who have done the same as Floyd and if they were treated as he was - you would know me on the news. I would not stop until something was done. The couple of relatives I speak of are in prison and they need to be there, but they were arrested and tried properly.

This was really, really bad.

 

[canadyjd]

Foolish, unnecessary and lacking in empathy ... but not the cause of death.

(The fact that is not what killed him sort of DOES matter.)

Mr. Floyd was handcuffed, in custody, on his face on the ground repeatedly begging for his life. After the officer was told Mr. Floyd was unconscious, unresponsive and had no discernible pulse, he remained on his neck for another 2:45 seconds.

That is far more than “foolish, unnecessary and lacking empathy.”

That 2:45 seconds is the only thing that will matter in this trial.

peace to you

 

[Reformed1689]

As much as I love and revere the police force, this particular policeman murdered George Floyd.

This is factually untrue as proven by the autopsy report.

 

[Scott Downey]

Police can use considerable force to restrain people, some people forget that. I have never been arrested myself. Anytime stopped I have fully cooperated. One cop told me I looked glassy eyed (driving home at 1 AM, yes I was tired), and wanted to know what I was on, and to come down to the station for some tests, and I said sure lets go, and he immediately relaxed and then let me go.

 

[atpollard]

Mr. Floyd was handcuffed, in custody, on his face on the ground repeatedly begging for his life. After the officer was told Mr. Floyd was unconscious, unresponsive and had no discernible pulse, he remained on his neck for another 2:45 seconds.

That is far more than “foolish, unnecessary and lacking empathy.”

That 2:45 seconds is the only thing that will matter in this trial.

peace to you

... and dying of an overdose.

You are probably correct about the trial.
I happen to think that someone accused of murder should also be the cause of the victim's death if they are to be found guilty.

 

[Scott Downey]

https://www.scribd.com/document/464...CydYiSW8oA-IzSXGtsDAZYcnjt3k0u_Olcp4z-9UlJRyU

He died of drug overdose. His system was overdosed on multiple drugs, it really looks like what happened was a satanic scheme. A person not overdosed like that would not have died. He could not breathe he said when he was up and walking around.

2 Corinthians 2:11
New King James Version
11 lest Satan should take advantage of us; for we are not ignorant of his devices.

1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

 

[Scott Downey]

Or did George Floyd Die of a Drug Overdose?
He had 3 times a fatal dose of Fentanyl in his system.
He was dying when police arrested him.
These facts people wish to ignore. Becuase the PC popular message is he was killed by police kneeling on his neck to hold him down, which is one of the restraint methods taught to police.
Maybe the police should bring along a steel jail cell and put them in it instead. Paddy Wagon.
But one person per paddy wagon? see it is just not going to be a good idea.

People hyped up on drugs also can be supernaturally strong. I dont envy police their job. Lets get rid of police then...replace them with the military with shoot to kill orders.

 

[atpollard]

... by police kneeling on his neck to hold him down, which is one of the restraint methods taught to police.

They didn't "kill" him, but it doesn't seem just or necessary for Mr Floyd to die with his face pinned to the ground. I am ignorant of what resources, training or options those officers had at their discretion, but what I saw appeared unnecessarily cruel. They may not have killed him, but what happened was not right.

 

[Scarlett O.]

This is factually untrue as proven by the autopsy report.

So you believe his being choked had 100% no bearing on his dying just at that moment?

You believe that if they just had him lie there - untouched - that he would have died at that moment anyway? You don't think he would have died weeks or months later? Do you believe the policeman acted properly?

Autopsy or no - there was a TOTAL disregard for human life on the part of the officer. And that's what counts.

 

[Scarlett O.]

Or did George Floyd Die of a Drug Overdose?
He had 3 times a fatal dose of Fentanyl in his system.
He was dying when police arrested him.
These facts people wish to ignore. Becuase the PC popular message is he was killed by police kneeling on his neck to hold him down, which is one of the restraint methods taught to police.
Maybe the police should bring along a steel jail cell and put them in it instead. Paddy Wagon.
But one person per paddy wagon? see it is just not going to be a good idea.

People hyped up on drugs also can be supernaturally strong. I dont envy police their job. Lets get rid of police then...replace them with the military with shoot to kill orders.

So he deserved what was "coming to him" - right?

 

[Scott Downey]

So he deserved what was "coming to him" - right?

Dont presume to me on what I said.

Well then, how about I say to you, you prefer evil doers let go to work more evil then.
So you dont think Floyd was acting evil then.
Like who let the dogs out, and release the hounds. Let evil go free.

 

[Scott Downey]

If a country has no law and removes authority to wield the sword as it sees fit at the moment, then who are the lawless ones, the government has become lawless and evil as have it's citizens, then you will have violence everywhere, like what is happening in the US now. And GOD gives them over to work more and more evil. To fill up the just measure of their sins, make them utterly as sinful as they can be for judgement day.

1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.
2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same.

4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.
5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake.

 

[atpollard]

So he deserved what was "coming to him" - right?

You should actually read the linked article. It discussed a lot of relevant medical facts about what you saw in the videos and what the police were attempting to do and should have done differently.

Or did George Floyd Die of a Drug Overdose?

 

[Scarlett O.]

We will never agree. I should have never posted in this thread. I knew people would vehemently disagree and I posted anyway and I'm genuinely sorry for that.

My opinion stays the same, but I will never discuss this online again.

 

[Scott Downey]

Who is presuming now?

If he were committing a crime, such as passing fake money at that store, then he should have been arrested and taken in.

But he was recklessly killed instead.

Floyd was resisting the police, and that is when bad things start happening, and rightly so.
So people resisting the police, the police should just walk away, or stand by for hours or days.

WATCH: George Floyd Body Cam Video Shows Him Resisting | Heavy.com

 

[Scott Downey]

Question, was Floyd doing evil against the law and resisted the authority? So then Romans 13 is in force.
Yes, or No, your answer would be the key thing to understanding as if the police had the right to not bear the sword in vain, and a sword can be a capital punishment.
But if you say no he was not an evil doer, how can you say that knowing what he did. And we do seem to be turning into to a lawless nation full of lawless ones. You know to be a lawless one is to be associated with Satan.

1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.
2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same.

4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.
5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake.