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Go out in Jesus Name

Walter

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Protestants who condemn any public display of spirituality, like crossing yourself, ash crosses on forehead, or wearing cross necklaces — they typically applaud football players and coaches who kneel and pray publicly on the football field at the end of a game.

They also may wear tee shirts or ball caps displaying Christian messages.

God looks at the heart. Are we publicly displaying Christian symbols and messages in a pompous, self righteous, prideful manner? Or are we expressing our faith in order to stand out from the atheist, worldly crowd, and hoping to draw others to the faith?

Spot on!
 

JonC

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Why did John the Baptist call for public repentance.?
He didn't. John the Baptist's ministry was restricted to the Jewish people. He publically (if we consider that specific audience to be the public) called for the people to repent.

I think you mean confessing of sins. But here it is confessing sins to other members of the congregation ("to one another").

We publically confess Christ.

I do not have a problem with such symbols as ash on the forehead...many wear crosses for the same reason, or a fish sticker on their car, so I see no room for them to complain.

Just because something is not biblical (like such symbols) does not mean it is wrong. It seems to me that God allows for personal expressions of our faith.
 

Cathode

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He didn't. John the Baptist's ministry was restricted to the Jewish people. He publically (if we consider that specific audience to be the public) called for the people to repent.

I think you mean confessing of sins. But here it is confessing sins to other members of the congregation ("to one another").

We publically confess Christ.

I do not have a problem with such symbols as ash on the forehead...many wear crosses for the same reason, or a fish sticker on their car, so I see no room for them to complain.

Just because something is not biblical (like such symbols) does not mean it is wrong. It seems to me that God allows for personal expressions of our faith.

Marking thau on the forehead is biblical as as a sign of repentance and separation from sin.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Your ignorance (as most rc's) of God's Word is astounding. It's really not that hard: Why do rc's ignore Christ's Words?

Matthew 6:16-18

“When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show others they are fasting. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, so that it will not be obvious to others that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

So again: Why do those in the rc denomination have ashes put on their foreheads for ash Wednesday so others may know that they are 'holy' rc's and are beginning their fasting for the 40 days of lent?
Maybe some do but others do it as a reminder that physical death is inevitable so pay attention to your soul.

I still occasionally cross myself as a recognition of the Holy Trinity in honor of them.. Father, Son , Holy Spirit. That is truly an outward sign of an inward spirit conviction.
 
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Earth Wind and Fire

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You need a sign to remind you that you are a sinner and in need a
of repentance? That is common knowledge for born-again Christians.

Why are those with the ashes on their foreheads making a public repentance for?

What is the purpose of doing it publicly?
What is it are you so? Are you saying that these people, from the RCC are not saved because they do not conform to your sense of biblical integrity?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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How are you travelling mate? I have been praying for you.

You accuse Catholics of being insincere in their repentance, that they are doing it all for show.
You sneer, judge and accuse as if you know and judge people’s hearts.
You profess to be Christian yet you use all the weapons of the darkness.

And I’m not seeing any charity in any of your posts, which is most disturbing.
That’s enough flailing at a brother… seek first understanding… albeit detestable to you and be humble as our lord was humble. Otherwise it might be you lacking a contrite heart. A good act of contrition might be here in order brother.. just saying.
 

Cathode

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It is as biblical as Baptists using hymnals (or putting lyrics on screens). It may not be wrong, but it is also not biblical.

Ezekiel 9:4 “And the Lord said to him: Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem: and mark Thau upon the foreheads of the men that sigh, and mourn for all the abominations that are committed in the midst thereof.”

Biblical and pertinent.
 

Cathode

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You mean the sins from the night before?
And last year’s night before?
And next year’s night before Ash Wednesday?

We should be in daily repentance, however the Church has a formal ceremony of general repentance and humility on Ash Wednesday once a year. It is a reminder for us as weak human beings that we are but dust. Gn 3:19

Humility is the beginning and necessary component of repentance.

The King of Nineveh covered himself with ash dust on his repentance.

“Bear fruit in keeping with repentance.”

By our repentance, others who see it are heartened and given courage to repent themselves, they see they are not alone in their darkness and shame. But also see a path and a way they can claim mercy.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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How are you travelling mate? I have been praying for you.
Thank you brother.. very much appreciated:Biggrin
Ezekiel 9:4 “And the Lord said to him: Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of lJerusalem: and mark Thau upon the foreheads of the men that sigh, and mourn for all the abominations that are committed in the midst thereof.”

Biblical and pertinent.
well, isn’t that interesting ;)
 

Oseas3

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Marking thau on the forehead is biblical as as a sign of repentance and separation from sin.
Ah yes, you claim that this demonic idolatry replaces the sacrifice of JESUS.



Post by oseas3 on Feb 4, 2026 at 11:42am​

Feb 4, 2026 at 11:42am Les Brewer likes this

The decorated cross, multicolored cross, posted in the message posted by Emerald in Recently Updated Posts | Friends Of Jesus at Feb 3, 2026 at 7:32am , brings to mind messages posted in the site www.baptistboard.com/threads/go-out-in-jesus-name.128342/ -> posts 5 and 6, and 24, 34, and 57,
and mainly brings also to mind Deuteronomy 21:22-23, which says:

Deuterfonomy 21:22-23:-> 22
And if a MAN have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:
23 His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is ACCURSED of God;) that thy land be not defiled, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.


Acts 10:39-40:-> 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews-> (land of Samaritans-reign of Israel), and in Jerusalem;(a land of Judah, headquarter of kingdom of Judah) whom they slew and hanged on a tree: ->(in Jerusalém, now spiritually called Sodom and Egypt-Revelation 11:8 combined with Isaiah 1:10 and Ephesians 1:22-23, take a look)

40
Him GOD raised up the third day, and shewed Him openly; -> (According to the Acts 1:3)

Galatians 3:13->
Christ hath redeemed us from the CURSE of the law, being made a CURSE for us: for it is written, CURSED is every one that hangeth on a tree: -> The cross of JESUS was His life of extreme suffering on earth, not the MAN-MADE CROSS.

->The MAN-MADE CROSS is of the DEVIL and represents ONLY AND ONLY the dreadful, horrend, horrible, monstrous, execrable, hideous CHASTISEMENT of my Lord JESUS suffered, marked by impiety, by intense cruelty, exactly according to the personal qualities of Satan, the MAN of sin, son of perdition, the manufaturer of crosses until this day and widespread by/through his false, and deceiver, and satanic Christianity practised by the Beast of sea-the Pope-, and this satanic doctrine was widespreaded through the great whore -the RCC- which rides upon the Beast of sea-the Pope. The cross many have it on their avatar, the Devil's cross that many are taking and carrying it as a trophy, that is the satanic cross that devilish Catholicism kisses and adores and venerates. GOD forbid.

Cross, according to the Word of GOD, is CURSE. In fact, the CROSS is a TROPHY that the Devil still uses until this day to highlight that he had power to KILL THE MIGHTY SON OF GOD, knowing that the Lord JESUS was the Heir of everything, Heir of the Earth, Heir of the world-Hebrews 1:v.2-3 combined with Revelation 11:v.15-18, by whom also GOD made the world.

Deeply analyzing the matter, in fact GOD allowed His Son JESUS to be taken to the slaughter like a sheep, but the way He would be killed was not chosen by GOD the Father, but by the Devil, that is the old Serpent, and Satan; and the object that was chosen by the Devil was the satanic CROSS for killing JESUS, for torturing Him, and for humiliation of Him, and mockery, and for cruel suffering, until death. JESUS already knew the satanic plan of the Devil: He said to His disciples: -> Matthew 26:v.2 - 2 Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.

For the believers, to take up the cross is to suffer for the love of JESUS, it is to suffer for the preaching of His Gospel, suffering to testify of His Word in the Devil's world, it is to suffer for the preaching His teachings within the world dominated by the Devil, to suffer for testifying of the redeeming work of JESUS for the corrupt world of Devil, whose work did cost his own life by dying it on the Devil's cross. This, the Devil's cross, is the cross that many have on their avatar, yeah, the Devil's cross, the satanic cross that devilish Catholicism kisses and adores.

www.baptistboard.com/threads/go-out-in-jesus-name.128342/
posts 5 and 6, and 24, 34, and 57.



2 Peter 3:7-> 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same Word are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against the Day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. ->(1Corinthians 3:12-17 and Corinthians 6:19, take a look)
 
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Earth Wind and Fire

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Ah yes, you claim that this demonic idolatry replaces the sacrifice of JESUS.
Really, are you joking or are you doing your best imitation of a temple Pharisee chiding Jesus for not keeping the sabbath? This is a cross imprinted on a persons forehead as a sign, first that the person is indeed a follower of the Christ and also it’s a reminder of a humans true state on this earth… this is not a Spinoza moment that dictates your oneness with the natural world, rather it’s a reminder of just who you are in relationship to G-D, the creator of all things. I personally find it both humbling & I rejoice that my creator will call me back to heaven. Of course, there is more to come.. a promise to walk with Him In eternity. I LIKE THIS REMINDER!


Post by oseas3 on Feb 4, 2026 at 11:42am​

Feb 4, 2026 at 11:42am Les Brewer likes this

The decorated cross, multicolored cross, posted in the message posted by Emerald in Recently Updated Posts | Friends Of Jesus at Feb 3, 2026 at 7:32am , brings to mind messages posted in the site www.baptistboard.com/threads/go-out-in-jesus-name.128342/ -> posts 5 and 6, and 24, 34, and 57,
and mainly brings also to mind Deuteronomy 21:22-23, which says:

Deuterfonomy 21:22-23:-> 22
And if a MAN have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:
23 His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is ACCURSED of God;) that thy land be not defiled, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.


Acts 10:39-40:-> 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews-> (land of Samaritans-reign of Israel), and in Jerusalem;(a land of Judah, headquarter of kingdom of Judah) whom they slew and hanged on a tree: ->(in Jerusalém, now spiritually called Sodom and Egypt-Revelation 11:8 combined with Isaiah 1:10 and Ephesians 1:22-23, take a look)

40
Him GOD raised up the third day, and shewed Him openly; -> (According to the Acts 1:3)

Galatians 3:13->
Christ hath redeemed us from the CURSE of the law, being made a CURSE for us: for it is written, CURSED is every one that hangeth on a tree: -> The cross of JESUS was His life of extreme suffering on earth, not the MAN-MADE CROSS.

->The MAN-MADE CROSS is of the DEVIL and represents ONLY AND ONLY the dreadful, horrend, horrible, monstrous, execrable, hideous CHASTISEMENT of my Lord JESUS suffered, marked by impiety, by intense cruelty, exactly according to the personal qualities of Satan, the MAN of sin, son of perdition, the manufaturer of crosses until this day and widespread by/through his false, and deceiver, and satanic Christianity practised by the Beast of sea-the Pope-, and this satanic doctrine was widespreaded through the great whore -the RCC- which rides upon the Beast of sea-the Pope. The cross many have it on their avatar, the Devil's cross that many are taking and carrying it as a trophy, that is the satanic cross that devilish Catholicism kisses and adores and venerates. GOD forbid.

Cross, according to the Word of GOD, is CURSE. In fact, the CROSS is a TROPHY that the Devil still uses until this day to highlight that he had power to KILL THE MIGHTY SON OF GOD, knowing that the Lord JESUS was the Heir of everything, Heir of the Earth, Heir of the world-Hebrews 1:v.2-3 combined with Revelation 11:v.15-18, by whom also GOD made the world.

Deeply analyzing the matter, in fact GOD allowed His Son JESUS to be taken to the slaughter like a sheep, but the way He would be killed was not chosen by GOD the Father, but by the Devil, that is the old Serpent, and Satan; and the object that was chosen by the Devil was the satanic CROSS for killing JESUS, for torturing Him, and for humiliation of Him, and mockery, and for cruel suffering, until death. JESUS already knew the satanic plan of the Devil: He said to His disciples: -> Matthew 26:v.2 - 2 Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.

For the believers, to take up the cross is to suffer for the love of JESUS, it is to suffer for the preaching of His Gospel, suffering to testify of His Word in the Devil's world, it is to suffer for the preaching His teachings within the world dominated by the Devil, to suffer for testifying of the redeeming work of JESUS for the corrupt world of Devil, whose work did cost his own life by dying it on the Devil's cross. This, the Devil's cross, is the cross that many have on their avatar, yeah, the Devil's cross, the satanic cross that devilish Catholicism kisses and adores.

www.baptistboard.com/threads/go-out-in-jesus-name.128342/
posts 5 and 6, and 24, 34, and 57.



2 Peter 3:7-> 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same Word are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against the Day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. ->(1Corinthians 3:12-17 and Corinthians 6:19, take a look)
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Ah yes, you claim that this demonic idolatry replaces the sacrifice of JESUS.



Post by oseas3 on Feb 4, 2026 at 11:42am​

Feb 4, 2026 at 11:42am Les Brewer likes this

The decorated cross, multicolored cross, posted in the message posted by Emerald in Recently Updated Posts | Friends Of Jesus at Feb 3, 2026 at 7:32am , brings to mind messages posted in the site www.baptistboard.com/threads/go-out-in-jesus-name.128342/ -> posts 5 and 6, and 24, 34, and 57,
and mainly brings also to mind Deuteronomy 21:22-23, which says:

Deuterfonomy 21:22-23:-> 22
And if a MAN have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:
23 His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is ACCURSED of God;) that thy land be not defiled, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.


Acts 10:39-40:-> 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews-> (land of Samaritans-reign of Israel), and in Jerusalem;(a land of Judah, headquarter of kingdom of Judah) whom they slew and hanged on a tree: ->(in Jerusalém, now spiritually called Sodom and Egypt-Revelation 11:8 combined with Isaiah 1:10 and Ephesians 1:22-23, take a look)

40
Him GOD raised up the third day, and shewed Him openly; -> (According to the Acts 1:3)

Galatians 3:13->
Christ hath redeemed us from the CURSE of the law, being made a CURSE for us: for it is written, CURSED is every one that hangeth on a tree: -> The cross of JESUS was His life of extreme suffering on earth, not the MAN-MADE CROSS.

->The MAN-MADE CROSS is of the DEVIL and represents ONLY AND ONLY the dreadful, horrend, horrible, monstrous, execrable, hideous CHASTISEMENT of my Lord JESUS suffered, marked by impiety, by intense cruelty, exactly according to the personal qualities of Satan, the MAN of sin, son of perdition, the manufaturer of crosses until this day and widespread by/through his false, and deceiver, and satanic Christianity practised by the Beast of sea-the Pope-, and this satanic doctrine was widespreaded through the great whore -the RCC- which rides upon the Beast of sea-the Pope. The cross many have it on their avatar, the Devil's cross that many are taking and carrying it as a trophy, that is the satanic cross that devilish Catholicism kisses and adores and venerates. GOD forbid.

Cross, according to the Word of GOD, is CURSE. In fact, the CROSS is a TROPHY that the Devil still uses until this day to highlight that he had power to KILL THE MIGHTY SON OF GOD, knowing that the Lord JESUS was the Heir of everything, Heir of the Earth, Heir of the world-Hebrews 1:v.2-3 combined with Revelation 11:v.15-18, by whom also GOD made the world.

Deeply analyzing the matter, in fact GOD allowed His Son JESUS to be taken to the slaughter like a sheep, but the way He would be killed was not chosen by GOD the Father, but by the Devil, that is the old Serpent, and Satan; and the object that was chosen by the Devil was the satanic CROSS for killing JESUS, for torturing Him, and for humiliation of Him, and mockery, and for cruel suffering, until death. JESUS already knew the satanic plan of the Devil: He said to His disciples: -> Matthew 26:v.2 - 2 Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.

For the believers, to take up the cross is to suffer for the love of JESUS, it is to suffer for the preaching of His Gospel, suffering to testify of His Word in the Devil's world, it is to suffer for the preaching His teachings within the world dominated by the Devil, to suffer for testifying of the redeeming work of JESUS for the corrupt world of Devil, whose work did cost his own life by dying it on the Devil's cross. This, the Devil's cross, is the cross that many have on their avatar, yeah, the Devil's cross, the satanic cross that devilish Catholicism kisses and adores.
I see no reason why a cross provides a satanic symbol. Rather it’s a symbol of divine suffering & love. FYI, my own personal preference however is the Orthodox metal that claims Christ the conqueror of sin.
www.baptistboard.com/threads/go-out-in-jesus-name.128342/
posts 5 and 6, and 24, 34, and 57.



2 Peter 3:7-> 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same Word are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against the Day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. ->(1Corinthians 3:12-17 and Corinthians 6:19, take a look)
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Ezekiel 9:4 “And the Lord said to him: Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem: and mark Thau upon the foreheads of the men that sigh, and mourn for all the abominations that are committed in the midst thereof.”

Biblical and pertinent.
No, that is scripture misapplied.

The verse is having those who lament the state of the Jews as they fell into idolatry. Those who were involved in idolatry were to be killed, while those identified as morning for how the nation had fallen were marked out and spared.

If that is the biblical support for marking the forehead of Christians then I have given the Catholics more benefit of the doubt than I should have.

But you contradict your previous post (you linked the sign to repentance, now you link it to morning the state of Israel as a nation fallen into idolatry).

So I have to side with my Catholic friends who engage in the practice to identify with Christ.
 

Ben1445

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We should be in daily repentance, however the Church has a formal ceremony of general repentance and humility on Ash Wednesday once a year. It is a reminder for us as weak human beings that we are but dust. Gn 3:19

Humility is the beginning and necessary component of repentance.

The King of Nineveh covered himself with ash dust on his repentance.

“Bear fruit in keeping with repentance.”

By our repentance, others who see it are heartened and given courage to repent themselves, they see they are not alone in their darkness and shame. But also see a path and a way they can claim mercy.
And Fat Tuesday is?…
 

Cathode

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No, that is scripture misapplied.

The verse is having those who lament the state of the Jews as they fell into idolatry. Those who were involved in idolatry were to be killed, while those identified as morning for how the nation had fallen were marked out and spared.

If that is the biblical support for marking the forehead of Christians then I have given the Catholics more benefit of the doubt than I should have.

But you contradict your previous post (you linked the sign to repentance, now you link it to morning the state of Israel as a nation fallen into idolatry).

So I have to side with my Catholic friends who engage in the practice to identify with Christ.

“Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry.” Col 3:5

All Sin is idolatry, In Colossians and Ezekiel we see the putting to death of all that is not marked by thau/ the Cross.

Jerusalem is symbolic of our own souls.

"But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem".

The Kingdom is within us in the New Covenant. What happened outwardly in the old covenant prefigured what happens inwardly in the New Covenant.

The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed and the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed as they say.

See how beautiful the covenants are joined, isn’t God wonderful.
 
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