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- NT Wright is a leading proponent of the "New Perspective on Paul," which reinterprets Paul's understanding of justification, works of the law, and the covenant. Critics, such as John Piper, argue that this perspective undermines the traditional Protestant doctrine of sola fide (justification by faith alone) and the imputation of Christ's righteousness.
- Rejection of Imputed Righteousness: A major point of contention is Wright's rejection of the concept that Christ's righteousness is imputed to the believer. He argues that justification is a covenantal declaration rather than a transfer of legal status.
- Definition of the Gospel: Critics argue that Wright wrongly focuses on "social transformation" or "God's kingdom" rather than the traditional evangelical focus on personal salvation and forgiveness of sins, with some critics even suggesting his view of the gospel is defective.
- View of Biblical Inerrancy: Wright has been criticized for having a "slippery" view of biblical inerrancy, preferring the term "trustworthiness".
- Is the New Perspective on Paul biblical? | GotQuestions.org
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And the “works” Charlie has been confused about is not human works.
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According to N.T. Wright, “Justification in the first century was not about how someone might establish a relationship with God. It was about God’s eschatological definition, both future and present, of who was in fact, a member of his people.”
The problem with this tenet of the “New Perspective on Paul” is that it distorts the biblical teaching on justification by faith and instead teaches that Paul’s doctrine of justification was only concerned with the Gentiles’ standing in the covenant community and not at all about a guilty sinner being declared just before a holy and righteous God. Simply put, we cannot disregard or redefine justification and still be considered Christian or biblical.
In his writings, N.T. Wright often argues against the imputed righteousness of Christ, which is the heart and soul of the true gospel (2 Corinthians 5:21).
It's definitely confusing for a Catholic, we got past that confusion.
I thought we settled this mate, I was half way through my cigar.
Have you ever known anything to be settled between a Catholic and a IFB?
We have had these conversations before but this was the first time you admitted the difference of works done through grace as opposed to human works.
If I knew how a Catholic thinks I would use the correct words they understand.
I've noticed that speaking with Catholics we word everything differently.
I'm used the discussing doctrine with fellow IFB believers.
We are on track and can cut through this to get to that and still be totally understood.
I can't do that here, I have to explain every single detail to be understood.
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