1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

God given unalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by JonC, May 21, 2021.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Top Posters
Page 6 of 7
  1. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    28,745
    Likes Received:
    1,136
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Or
    the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.

    How would a person know what you have in mind?
     
    #101 Van, May 27, 2021
  2. JonC

    JonC Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2001
    Messages:
    35,198
    Likes Received:
    3,791
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Probably from how it is used. Life being an entitlement is not the same as a sense of entitlement.

    But for those who struggle with English, they could just ask.
     
    #102 JonC, May 27, 2021
  3. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    28,745
    Likes Received:
    1,136
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I still do not know...
     
    #103 Van, May 27, 2021
  4. JonC

    JonC Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2001
    Messages:
    35,198
    Likes Received:
    3,791
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Think for a minute. I spoke of the right to life as an entitlement to life.

    Does that mean "the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment" or "the fact of having a right to something"?

    Hint - in the context of my posts, it can mean only one.

    Bonus hint - I mean the fact of having a right to something.
     
    #104 JonC, May 27, 2021
  5. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    28,745
    Likes Received:
    1,136
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Have a nice day...
     
    #105 Van, May 27, 2021
  6. JonC

    JonC Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2001
    Messages:
    35,198
    Likes Received:
    3,791
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Yes, I suppose I am entitled to a nice day.
     
    #106 JonC, May 27, 2021
  7. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    28,745
    Likes Received:
    1,136
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Yes, I appointed myself hall monitor and can bestow nice days to those who deserve them...
     
    #107 Van, May 27, 2021
  8. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    28,745
    Likes Received:
    1,136
    Faith:
    Baptist
    According to scripture, God has bestowed the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to humanity, and sinful man tries to take away those rights. Key to this insight is God uses persuasion, not compulsion to engender faith among the lost.
     
    #108 Van, May 27, 2021
  9. AustinC

    AustinC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2020
    Messages:
    10,911
    Likes Received:
    1,458
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Quote the exact scripture to us so we can come to agreement.
     
    #109 AustinC, May 27, 2021
    • Useful Useful x 1
  10. Alcott

    Alcott Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2002
    Messages:
    9,405
    Likes Received:
    353
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Then is damnation a human entitlement?
     
    #110 Alcott, May 28, 2021
  11. JonC

    JonC Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2001
    Messages:
    35,198
    Likes Received:
    3,791
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Well....thank you. :Thumbsup
     
    #111 JonC, May 28, 2021
  12. JonC

    JonC Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2001
    Messages:
    35,198
    Likes Received:
    3,791
    Faith:
    Baptist
    No. It is a result or consequence. What men earn is death (the wages of sin are death but the gift of God is life).

    We are not entitled to life, but we have earned death.
     
    #112 JonC, May 28, 2021
  13. AustinC

    AustinC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2020
    Messages:
    10,911
    Likes Received:
    1,458
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Damnation is the result of the curse due to Adam breaking the covenant he had with God. Yes, humans are entitled to damnation. Only by God's grace are we saved.
     
    #113 AustinC, May 28, 2021
    • Agree Agree x 1
  14. 37818

    37818 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2018
    Messages:
    17,855
    Likes Received:
    1,365
    Faith:
    Baptist
    There is life and there is eternal life (Genesis 2:7; Genesis 3:22, Romans 5:12, Romans 6:23).
     
    #114 37818, May 28, 2021
  15. JonC

    JonC Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2001
    Messages:
    35,198
    Likes Received:
    3,791
    Faith:
    Baptist
    #115 JonC, May 28, 2021
  16. 37818

    37818 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2018
    Messages:
    17,855
    Likes Received:
    1,365
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Then all life and it's procreation should simply cease. The fact that life exists you are wrong. Life is its own entitlement. Furthermore, God's command to mankind, Genesis 1:28, ". . . Be fruitful, and multiply, . . ."
     
    #116 37818, May 28, 2021
  17. 37818

    37818 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2018
    Messages:
    17,855
    Likes Received:
    1,365
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Rights can become alienable. Unalienalbe rights therefore cannot be immutable rights.
    Property can be sold.
    One's rights to Life, liberty and persuit of happiness can be lost by causes.
     
    #117 37818, May 28, 2021
    • Agree Agree x 1
  18. JonC

    JonC Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2001
    Messages:
    35,198
    Likes Received:
    3,791
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Why? Men do not have an unalienable right to own a pistol. Are you advocating a gun ban??

    Life exists not because of human rights but because of God.
     
    #118 JonC, May 28, 2021
  19. 37818

    37818 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2018
    Messages:
    17,855
    Likes Received:
    1,365
    Faith:
    Baptist
    What constitutes a right? Rights only come from man?
     
    #119 37818, May 28, 2021
  20. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    28,745
    Likes Received:
    1,136
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Done and done, read the thread.
     
    #120 Van, May 28, 2021
Page 6 of 7
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Loading...