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God hardens hearts that He claims would otherwise believe. Is this total depravity?

Brightfame52

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Then why does God judge men for something that they have zero control over?

Remember it is your version of God that has determined all things BF. So He is judging men for what He has determined they will do.

You have a really strange religion there BF.
God does everything for His Glory
 

Silverhair

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Those God desires to be saved, guess what ? Job 23:13-14

13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.

14 For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me: and many such things are with him.

So as I said BF, since God desires all to be saved then why are not all saved.

Your the one that keeps saying that what He desires has to come to fruition.

What do you think
1Ti 2:3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
means if not that He wants all men to be saved?

But we know that not all men are saved so that punches a hole in your theory BF.

It would seem that you are just reading into a verse what you want to find.
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
So as I said BF, since God desires all to be saved then why are not all saved.

Your the one that keeps saying that what He desires has to come to fruition.

What do you think
1Ti 2:3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
means if not that He wants all men to be saved?

But we know that not all men are saved so that punches a hole in your theory BF.

It would seem that you are just reading into a verse what you want to find.
Those God desires to be saved, guess what ? Job 23:13-14

13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.

14 For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me: and many such things are with him.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
Those God desires to be saved, guess what ? Job 23:13-14

13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.

14 For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me
: and many such things are with him.

Still not dealing with the problem of your thinking BF?

Look at the context of the verses in Job. How does it relate to what we are told in 1Ti 2:3-4?
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
Still not dealing with the problem of your thinking BF?

Look at the context of the verses in Job. How does it relate to what we are told in 1Ti 2:3-4?
Those God desires to be saved, guess what ? Job 23:13-14

13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.

14 For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me
: and many such things are with him.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
Those God desires to be saved, guess what ? Job 23:13-14

13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.

14 For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me
: and many such things are with him.

Pro 1:22 "How long, O naive ones, will you love being simple-minded? And scoffers delight themselves in scoffing And fools hate knowledge?
 

Van

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No the Corinthians were spiritual having the Spirit in them 1 Cor 6:19

19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

They had been given the Spirit to know the things of God 1 Cor 2:12-13

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things[Salvation things] that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
Once again, not a single Calvinist has the integrity to even address 1 Corinthians 3:1. Paul spoke to new immature Christians as he spoke to unregenerates using spiritual milk. They deny this truth as if they cannot read. It would be laughable if it weren't so sad.
 
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