God is not a Republican (or a Democrat)

[ajg1959]

1) It already has. Their leaders have had very friendly state visits with each other in their respective countries.

2) How are we going to stop it? The United States doesn't rule the world. Are you saying that you will never approve of Iraq being a sovereign country again?

I dont have any answers Ken. In fact, i do believe that the situation in the middle east will get a whole lot worse before it gets better. A unified state of Iraq/Iran is a dangerous situation for the whole world, not just the US.

AJ

 

[LadyEagle]

Are you saying that the intention of the United States government is to rule Iraq for decades to come?

Draw your own conclusions by reading this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12319798/

Iraq’s interim government transferred the land to U.S. ownership in October 2004, under an agreement whose terms were not disclosed.
“Embassy Baghdad” will dwarf new U.S. embassies elsewhere, projects that typically cover 10 acres. The embassy’s 104 acres is six times larger than the United Nations compound in New York, and two-thirds the acreage of Washington’s National Mall.
Estimated cost of over $1 billion
Original cost estimates ranged over $1 billion, but Congress appropriated only $592 million in the emergency Iraq budget adopted last year. Most has gone to a Kuwait builder, First Kuwaiti Trading & Contracting, with the rest awarded to six contractors working on the project’s “classified” portion — the actual embassy offices.
Higgins declined to identify those builders, citing security reasons, but said five were American companies.
The designs aren’t publicly available, but the Senate report makes clear it will be a self-sufficient and “hardened” domain, to function in the midst of Baghdad power outages, water shortages and continuing turmoil.
It will have its own water wells, electricity plant and wastewater-treatment facility, “systems to allow 100 percent independence from city utilities,” says the report, the most authoritative open source on the embassy plans.
Besides two major diplomatic office buildings, homes for the ambassador and his deputy, and the apartment buildings for staff, the compound will offer a swimming pool, gym, commissary, food court and American Club, all housed in a recreation building.
Security, overseen by U.S. Marines, will be extraordinary: setbacks and perimeter no-go areas that will be especially deep, structures reinforced to 2.5-times the standard, and five high-security entrances, plus an emergency entrance-exit, the Senate report says.

The Congress that voted for all this was majority Democrats. See? It's all rhetoric.....

 

[Petra-O IX]

At least McCain and Bush know enough about the intelligence to lie about it....Obama doesnt know anything about it at all. He is merely throwing out political bait for gullible voters to bite on.

AJ

Yep! And that is why a Third party candidate will get my vote. Why vote for someone that you can only trust to lie to you? It really lacks any Christian conscience when on chooses to vote for known liars.

 

[LadyEagle]

And ROCKO, that's why I voted CP last election.

This time, Palin gave my hope back for the unborn.....

 

[Petra-O IX]

And ROCKO, that's why I voted CP last election.

This time, Palin gave my hope back for the unborn.....

Palin is just a flash in the pan , a mere novelty nothing more.

 

[ajg1959]

Yep! And that is why a Third party candidate will get my vote. Why vote for someone that you can only trust to lie to you? It really lacks any Christian conscience when on chooses to vote for known liars.

Have you ever been in the military?

In the military we were only told what "we needed to know". It is the president's job to ensure the security of our nation, and that includes only telling us what we need to know. It may include even lieing to protect national secrets. I am sure Bin Laden gets CNN in his cave, and would hear any secrets that were broadcast before most of us would.

I dont have a problem with a president lieing or misleading the world, and us, in the interest of national security.

Since you are healthy and arent wearing a turban and speaking farsi then you should be glad that we have not been attacked again.

AJ

 

[Petra-O IX]

Have you ever been in the military?

In the military we were only told what "we needed to know". It is the president's job to ensure the security of our nation, and that includes only telling us what we need to know. It may include even lieing to protect national secrets. I am sure Bin Laden gets CNN in his cave, and would hear any secrets that were broadcast before most of us would.

I dont have a problem with a president lieing or misleading the world, and us, in the interest of national security.

Since you are healthy and arent wearing a turban and speaking farsi then you should be glad that we have not been attacked again.

AJ

And I have nothing against the military but I am not subjected to the same rules as military men and women. Lieing is an abomination. Lieing is not a Christian value.

 

[ajg1959]

Yep! And that is why a Third party candidate will get my vote. Why vote for someone that you can only trust to lie to you? It really lacks any Christian conscience when on chooses to vote for known liars.

If a vote for a third party would make a difference i might consider it, but since none of them have any chance at all I choose to vote against the Dems by voting for the GOP. This doesnt mean that I am happy with McCain, it just means I am afraid of obama.

I cannot vote for abortion or gay rights, and in fact feel compelled to vote against them, thus my only moral choice is McCain.

AJ

 

[Petra-O IX]

I cannot vote for abortion or gay rights, and in fact feel compelled to vote against them, thus my only moral choice is McCain.

AJ

Well it is a choice but I cannot regard as a Christian moral choice.

 

[ajg1959]

And I have nothing against the military but I am not subjected to the same rules as military men and women. Lieing is an abomination. Lieing is not a Christian value.

Lieing is necessary for national security. Unfortunately, our enemies are not christians, and do not share our values, and the truth would be used against us.

AJ

 

[Petra-O IX]

Lieing is necessary for national security. Unfortunately, our enemies are not christians, and do not share our values, and the truth would be used against us.

AJ

But this does show our lack of trust in God and more of man's reliance in himself.

 

[ajg1959]

Well it is a choice but I cannot regard as a Christian moral choice.

The only thing moral about my choice is the fact that I am voting against Obama and the Dems. I dont share McCain's views on many issues, but at least he doesnt promote the unbiblical views of the Dems on abortion and gay rights.

AJ

 

[ajg1959]

But this does show our lack of trust in God and more of man's reliance in himself.

I agree with you in principle, but in reality it doesnt work that way. In fact, I doubt that even if we had a candidate that totally trusted in God for guidance and was truthful about everything, that he could get elected.

AJ

 

[Petra-O IX]

I agree with you in principle, but in reality it doesnt work that way. In fact, I doubt that even if we had a candidate that totally trusted in God for guidance and was truthful about everything, that he could get elected.

AJ

Maybe not but if we don't start somewhere in putting our Faith in God rather than man we will continue the same ol same ol in politics irregardless of who is elected.

 

[Major B]

oops hit wrong button

 

[KenH]

Draw your own conclusions by reading this

We have embassies in most countries. True, this one is larger but it is common practice to have an embassy in other countries.

 

[JustChristian]

Democrats(Liberals) support Gay rights
Democrats (Liberals) want to legalize drugs
Democrats(Liberals) are pro abortion
Democrats(Liberals) want God/Religion out

There is a reason they vote overwhelmingly Democrat while polls show Christians vote overwhelmingly Republican. Whom you align with says alot about you and your beliefs. There is also a reason Ministers overwhelmingly vote Republican:
http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/06/01/republican-southern-baptists/

Can't say 100% that God would be a Republican, but I can say 100% that he would align more with the Republicans values and beliefs than the Liberal Democrats.:godisgood:

I'm a Democrat and I:

1) Do not support homosexual marriages. I do support their constitutional rights. I assume you don't.

2) Do not support legalizing drugs

3) Am against abortion except when the life of the mother is at risk. Why save the child and "murder" the mother?

4) I don't know where "out" is but I'm an evangelical Christian who witnesses whenever it's possible without forcing my religion on anyone. I don't see the need to teach religion in public schools or to hang a copy of the Ten Commandments in a court house. In my experience people fight for these kinds of things rather than putting their emphasis on witnessing or on living a Christian life.


However I do:

1) Speak out against unjust wars in which hundreds of thousands of innocent people are killed (Iraq).

2) Don't agree with people with distorted beliefs like George Bush using his "Christianity" for political gain.

3) Don't immediately assume that everyone who is a Republican believes one list of things and everyone who is a Democrat believes another complete list of things. As you can see, I don't believe in any of the things you listed that "All Democrats" believe in.

4) Believe that we should help the poor and needy. Ideally this would happen through the church but since that is never going to happen I believe our tax dollars should help.

5) Believe in the benefits of universal education with public schools bearing most of the responsibility. My mother and aunt both taught deaf children in the public schools for over 30 years and I greatly admire them for the amazing amount of good they did. I get made at people who bad moth public schools for that reason.

6) Believe in America's fundamental rights including the freedom to express your ideas even if they aren't supported by the majority.

7) Don't believe that an assault rifle is necessary for hunting or that we should have laws allowing the carrying of concealed handguns in public.

8) Don't believe in arbitrary banning of books or TV programs but do believe that children should be protected from pornography or extreme violence.

9) Don't support illegal aliens in the USA.

10) Believe that its worse than burning a flag to never vote. We go to war to force democracy on other countries but don't practice it ourselves.

11) Don't agree with bring patriotism into the church or mixing it with religion.

Well, I could go on and on but hopefully you get the picture. Assuming that a set of beliefs or characteristics apply to a large set of people is a tragic mistake. In fact, it's non-Christian.

 

[JustChristian]

I dont know how many of you liberals that support abortion and gay rights candidates are pastors, but I am certain that at least some of you must be.

let me just say one thing to you. I would not knowingly listen to any sermon by such a pastor, much less join or attend their church. How a person can preach the gospel and support such garbage is beyond me.

AJ

I don't support abortion or gay marriages. I'm not a pastor but my brother is. I'm a Deacon. What do you do for our Lord?

 

[JustChristian]

And what are you on?

He's right on the Bible. How about you?

 

[ajg1959]

I don't support abortion or gay marriages. I'm not a pastor but my brother is. I'm a Deacon. What do you do for our Lord?

I vote against candidates that support issues that God opposes, for starters.

AJ