carpo;
I see you were afraid to deal with the rest of my post. :laugh:
Figures.
This is what you're running from:
I believe you are the one "afraid" or "running", don't you think?
Rom 13:1Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers.
For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
Rom 13:3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power?
do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
Rom 13:4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Rom 13:5Wherefore [ye] must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
Topic is dead on!
Context of this passage is "rulers" "powers" which is government. Context is dead on!
Christian Debate "tactic" is all about presenting "Truth" which is found in the scriptures. The debate is whether or not the scripture is on topic and in context. SInce you declare it is not, then you need to give an alternate explanation or interpretation of the passage.
Thus far, you seem to be in a tight spot and have transgressed into slanderous rhetoric. This often happens when one is confronted with truth they cannot bear.
You need to show us why the passage is not related to the USA rulers. You can't, so what will you do? You won't accept what God says so you will continue more rhetorical attacks. Sign of a lost debate!
carpo;
You evidently subscribed to the concept of predestination. I don't.
God is omniscient. He knew Obama would be elected and he allowed us to do it. He will use that election in whatever way He deems will accomplish His purpose.
If what you believe is correct, then we all can just sit back and watch God run the world. No decisions on our part are necessary. We wasted ur time with an election.
So don't get out of bed Monday. You don't have to work. God will fill your bank account with cash. Except you won't need the cash. You'd have to decide how to spend it and God is going to do that for you.
This is all just rhetoric, what do you want me to say? You didn't ask any questions, you didn't post any scripture, what do you want me to say?
You some how think God "allows" things to happen, God does not "cause" things to happen. God is just sitting back watching to see what His little ol creation is going to do! Ok, post some scripture to support this view.
I gave scripture, you have yet to respond with anything other than temper. Try debating with some substance, give some reason why the USA does not fall under "the powers that be".
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