"God's Pure Word"

[Reformed1689]

They also would hold that NO valid conversions happen apart from the use of the Kjv!

Here's a question, can those who worship an idol be saved?

 

[JesusFan]

Here's a question, can those who worship an idol be saved?

Great question!

 

[Dave G]

Define what "God's Pure Word" actually means.

The existence of this thread indicates to me, that most who profess Christ don't really know for sure.
Or rather that no one can agree on it...
Which I've seen repeatedly since joining this board over 3 years ago.

Otherwise, those who read and believe the Bible should be able to point at something and say with surety what constitutes God's pure word,
as they would immediately recognize it as such with no trouble ( John 8:43-47 ).

 

[Salty]

The existence of this thread indicates to me, that most who profess Christ don't really know for sure.
Or rather that no one can agree on it...
Which I've seen repeatedly since joining this board over 3 years ago.

Otherwise, those who read and believe the Bible should be able to point at something and say with surety what constitutes God's pure word.

or otherwise - is the King James Version the Pure Word of God?

 

[Dave G]

or otherwise - is the King James Version the Pure Word of God?

I think you already know my position, Salty...

The "KJV" is an English translation of God's very words;
Words that have been preserved for His children down through the centuries in the Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

This should help.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCBr5Wu4gsbrwSyVdwXh6tQ/videos

We don't want a sample, how do we get the FULL course.

 

[Reformed1689]

This should help.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCBr5Wu4gsbrwSyVdwXh6tQ/videos

I can't access YT. But it should have other avenues if he used it 40 years ago.

 

[Logos1560]

The "KJV" is an English translation of God's very words;
Words that have been preserved for His children down through the centuries in the Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic.

In a few cases the KJV is a translation of Latin words from an edition of the Latin Vulgate of Jerome translated into Greek by Erasmus and those words are found in no known Greek NT manuscripts and is a translation of textual conjectures introduced by Erasmus and Beza that are found in no known Greek NT manuscripts.

The KJV is an English translation in the same sense and way that the pre-1611 English Bibles are English translations and in the same sense and way that post-1611 English Bibles such as the NKJV are.

 

[Salty]

Seven hour warning

This thread will be closed no sooner than 11 pm EDT / 8 pm PDT

 

[Reformed1689]

In a few cases the KJV is a translation of Latin words from an edition of the Latin Vulgate of Jerome translated into Greek by Erasmus and those words are found in no known Greek NT manuscripts and is a translation of textual conjectures introduced by Erasmus and Beza that are found in no known Greek NT manuscripts.

The KJV is an English translation in the same sense and way that the pre-1611 English Bibles are English translations and in the same sense and way that post-1611 English Bibles such as the NKJV are.

Exactly, the idea that there was some special circumstances surrounding the KJV translation effort has no basis in reality.

 

[Truther]

When the Kjv disagrees with the Hebrew and Greek texts, who is right?

It does not.

It disagrees with the fake Nestle/Aland Greek.

 

[Truther]

So the thief never made paradise, so Jesus lied to him then?

Jesus had not resurrected and Acts 2 had not started. He died under the Law. Read Acts 1-2 for more info....

 

[Truther]

So you are adding to the true Gospel, and so hold to another and a false one?
Did the Kjv give that doctrine to you?

No, most Bible translations say Acts 2:38 is baptism in the name of Jesus Christ FOR THE remission of sins.

They have not deleted it yet.

 

[Truther]

NO, the Lord NEVER inspired any languages other then those 3 used in the originals!

Languages are not divinely inspired.

That is fake news.

 

[Truther]

Good grief, what is the NAME of the course?

I named it Understanding the Bible.

 

[Truther]

You seem to mean that the KJV must mean what we call the source text (ST). Must the KJV be the ST for a translation in, say, Japanese, for the Word of God to be pure in Japanese?

All languages can be translated from English to whatever.

The English KJV is the comparison, not the NIV, RSV or AMP etc.

 

[Truther]

And where do you find this in Scripture?

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

 

[Truther]

YES! Authorized by the King. My, my, did your history just get shaken?

My history sources and yours are different.

Since we did not live then, take your pick.

 

[John of Japan]

It does not.

It disagrees with the fake Nestle/Aland Greek.

Nestle/Aland is not "fake Greek." It's the real thing. It just leaves out a lot of words and phrases that should be in there.

 

[John of Japan]

All languages can be translated from English to whatever.

The English KJV is the comparison, not the NIV, RSV or AMP etc.

So you don't believe in translating from the original languages of the Bible? The pure Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek?