GOP healthcare plan

[TCassidy]

Except they have passed a repeal bill using reconciliation, which only requires 51 votes.

Yes, while President Obama was still in office and they knew he would veto it so they didn't bother to fight the reconciliation.

 

[blessedwife318]

Yes, while President Obama was still in office and they knew he would veto it so they didn't bother to fight the reconciliation.

It's proof that it can be done. The GOP needs to keep its promise that they have run on since 2010 or come out and admit that they have no intention of repealing Obamacare, this whole making excuses is just ridiculous, especially given how many times they have moved the goalpost. fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I understood needing the house and the Senate, and the Whitehouse, but now saying they need a super majority is a bridge too far. They know how to pass it with reconcilation, (a fact I'm sure they want to bury now) so they need to do so, at least make it a fight. But as per the norm Trump and the GOPe are more interested in fighting conservatives than Democrats. We were all told Trump would be a fighter, so let's see him fight the Dems on this. I won't be holding my breath however that Trump will ever fight the Dems. He saves it all for the media and conservative.

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[Calminian]

It has to be a phased transition. An outright repeal would be filibustered by the Democrats, and the Republicans don't have the 60 votes for cloture.

Exactly. Trump understands this, and I'm not a big Ryan fan, but he gets it too. In this case, Ryan is actually much more sensible than Rand Paul.

There's nothing wrong with a fight, but it makes much more sense to do the sure things first. It's a lot better than getting nothing and hoping for more seats in the midterm.

It's proof that it can be done. ...

Passing a bill doomed to veto is not proof of anything.

 

[just-want-peace]

A phased approach will not work. The GOP has one shot and one shot only to take down Obamacare and they are wasting it. 2018 is not that far away and if the GOP does not deliver on what they have been running on since 2010 they will lose. You can't keep promising and than moving the goalpost indefinitely. They passed a full repeal when Obama was still president, which now is being shown to be political play, knowing that it would die on Obama's desk, yet now when they have a President who will sign it they play the phased approach, which again is pure politics. They want their base to be so concerned about the next battle that they don't notice how the current battle is going. Ironic that the one good thing I actually thought would happen when Trump won looks to be going down in flames because the GOP lacks a backbone (should have realized that at the convention).
We need a conservative party given how the Democrats are Crazy and the Republican are Dems light, with neither wanting to make the government smaller and run according to Constitution.

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My sentiments also!

 

[HankD]

It is going to happen! Right, left and all those inbetween are in mortal fear of 2018, 2020.

The DNC CANNOT take a set back again, again.

A staged donnybrook followed by doublethink wordsmithing and wordcrafting, followed by a Trump "deal" and voilà - ObamaCare 2.0.

HankD

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I think we agree, for the most part.

Remember I'm a former JFK Democrat.
HankD

Really?!? So then, have you heard of young Joe Kennedy lately?

 

[TCassidy]

Wow. He lies just as well as his fat uncle!

 

[HankD]

Really?!? So then, have you heard of young Joe Kennedy lately?

Joe is not a JFK Democrat.

JFK was more conservative than many, most maybe even ALL the neocons.

"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country." JFK.

IOW Get off welfare and get a job (able-bodied).

HankD

 

[Yeshua1]

Exactly. Trump understands this, and I'm not a big Ryan fan, but he gets it too. In this case, Ryan is actually much more sensible than Rand Paul.

There's nothing wrong with a fight, but it makes much more sense to do the sure things first. It's a lot better than getting nothing and hoping for more seats in the midterm.



Passing a bill doomed to veto is not proof of anything.

They first need to get rid of Byrd amendment, that stated only finances allowed in reconciliation bill, as they need to hit Tort change and allow for state to state insurance commerce!

 

[Yeshua1]

Joe is not a JFK Democrat.

JFK was more conservative than many, most maybe even ALL the neocons.

"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country." JFK.

IOW Get off welfare and get a job (able-bodied).

HankD

Billy Clinton looks like Reagan views wise compared to Dems now!

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Joe is not a JFK Democrat.

JFK was more conservative than many, most maybe even ALL the neocons.

"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country." JFK.

IOW Get off welfare and get a job (able-bodied).

HankD

So you think those living on welfare deprive you of your what?

Joe is not a JFK Democrat.

JFK was more conservative than many, most maybe even ALL the neocons.

"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country." JFK.

IOW Get off welfare and get a job (able-bodied).

HankD

Wow. He lies just as well as his fat uncle!

Or that fat [Crude language edited] Trump who lies like every word that comes out of his mouth......probably put in there by that other fat [Crude language edited] Steve Bannon who is a total bomb thrower.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

It is going to happen! Right, left and all those inbetween are in mortal fear of 2018, 2020.

The DNC CANNOT take a set back again, again.

A staged donnybrook followed by doublethink wordsmithing and wordcrafting, followed by a Trump "deal" and voilà - ObamaCare 2.0.

HankD

Ahhh correction........TrumpCare. With Ryan as the primary used car salesman. Come on America, I just had it repainted.

 

[Alcott]

Another one of them making a plug for 2020?

 

[just-want-peace]

Joe is not a JFK Democrat.

JFK was more conservative than many, most maybe even ALL the neocons.

"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country." JFK.

IOW Get off welfare and get a job (able-bodied).

HankD

(Emphasis mine)

Amen, Slam Dunk, Home Run, yada, yada, yada!!!!!!

 

[HankD]

So you think those living on welfare deprive you of your what?

Taxes.

Or that fat [Crude language edited] Trump who lies like every word that comes out of his mouth......probably put in there by that other fat [Crude language edited] Steve Bannon who is a total bomb thrower.

Hmm, uh, looks like you are a wannabe verbal bomb thrower EWT

HankD

 

[HankD]

Ahhh correction........TrumpCare. With Ryan as the primary used car salesman. Come on America, I just had it repainted.

No, ObamaCare 2.0 cuz it will retain some essentials of Obamacare (Shh, don't tell anyone).

HankD

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Taxes.

ah, you better open your eyes to whats really increasing your taxes.

Hmm, uh, looks like you are a wannabe verbal bomb thrower EWT

HankD

Just calling them as I see them.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

No, ObamaCare 2.0 cuz it will retain some essentials of Obamacare (Shh, don't tell anyone).

HankD

welcome the new boss, same as the old boss.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

(Emphasis mine)

Amen, Slam Dunk, Home Run, yada, yada, yada!!!!!!

Ya think so huh.......LOL!
im just showing you who your competition is .....give it 4 years for the meglo to screw up & it will happen. how do you like those apples.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Another one of them making a plug for 2020?

you want to explain "Them" snip. I personally don't think you do.