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Greg Abbott has COVID-19

JonC

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It’s news that is relevant to a controversial policy.

I’m not sure why you don’t/won’t understand that. You are not required to have an opinion or even read the post.
I can guarantee if the Gov died of covid the anti-vaxers would make him a poster child. :Wink

Looking at all of the recent anti-vax threads on the BB one cannot miss the hypocrisy in the complaint.
 

Baptist Believer

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Obviously, since the pro-vaxers can't, because he has been vaccinated.
Sure we can. He is much less likely to die or have long-term issues because of his vaccination.

The end result has yet to be seen, but it seems likely that he will be fine.

Moreover, this demonstrates how serious the situation is since breakthrough infections are occurring.
 

rlvaughn

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BB, the "punch line" in Jon's post was "if the Gov died of covid," which is that to which my response applies. If someone who is vaccinated dies of Covid, that person won't make a great "poster child" for vaccinations.

Like you, however, I expect the Governor will most likely be fine.
 

Van

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It supports what I said. Most people aren’t using the surgical masks or kn95 respirators. They were simple cloth masks. They specifically stated they didn’t test for virus transmission through the mask. Another worthless propaganda effort from pseudo “experts”.

“Mask do not protect from the virus. It is silly for people to run around wearing masks all the time.” Quote from a famous doctor. Who was it? If only I could remember his name?? Who oh who could it be? Could it have been Fauci?

Additionally, if you are wearing a mask and the virus is in the air (in small droplet form) it passes right through the mask with the air you breathe.

peace to you

The use of "aerosol" was correct and your objection was wrong. Full Stop
 

canadyjd

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The use of "aerosol" was correct and your objection was wrong. Full Stop
They didn’t test to see how much virus came through the mask. It was a worthless, pseudo experiment designed to support wearing masks, and even then they could only put a spin on mixed results.

Masks do not stop the virus floating in the air. They may or may not stop droplets containing the virus, depending on the size of the droplet. Plain and simple. Cut and dry.

peace to you
 

Van

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They didn’t test to see how much virus came through the mask. It was a worthless, pseudo experiment designed to support wearing masks, and even then they could only put a spin on mixed results.

Masks do not stop the virus floating in the air. They may or may not stop droplets containing the virus, depending on the size of the droplet. Plain and simple. Cut and dry.

peace to you
You falsely claimed masks to not reduce the transmission of aerosols. Thus if the aerosols contain the virus, then the mask would reduce the transmission of the virus. This is not rocket science.
 

canadyjd

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You falsely claimed masks to not reduce the transmission of aerosols. Thus if the aerosols contain the virus, then the mask would reduce the transmission of the virus. This is not rocket science.
You falsely claimed a study you linked to supported your position. Reading the study results clearly demonstrates they did not test for viruses coming through the mask. Furthermore, the study differentiated between the size of the droplets and was uncertain of the effectiveness of stopping the virus contained in the smaller droplets.

Nevertheless, they asserted the effectiveness of mask wearing based on incomplete analysis and mixed results, demonstrating the study wasn’t based on science but based on politics attempting to generate a desired outcome so people like you can regurgitate the propaganda on boards like this.

Fauci was truthful about mask wearing at first. Then he was linked to gain of function research at the whu whu lab. Now he’s all about lying. Once again, liberalism corrupts everything it touches, even science.

Peace to you
 

Van

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You falsely claimed a study you linked to supported your position. Reading the study results clearly demonstrates they did not test for viruses coming through the mask. Furthermore, the study differentiated between the size of the droplets and was uncertain of the effectiveness of stopping the virus contained in the smaller droplets.

Nevertheless, they asserted the effectiveness of mask wearing based on incomplete analysis and mixed results, demonstrating the study wasn’t based on science but based on politics attempting to generate a desired outcome so people like you can regurgitate the propaganda on boards like this.

Fauci was truthful about mask wearing at first. Then he was linked to gain of function research at the whu whu lab. Now he’s all about lying. Once again, liberalism corrupts everything it touches, even science.

Peace to you
On and on, folks, falsehood after falsehood, Canadyid presented falsehoods and now is charging me to hide the error. Childish!!
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Sure we can. He is much less likely to die or have long-term issues because of his vaccination.

The end result has yet to be seen, but it seems likely that he will be fine.

Moreover, this demonstrates how serious the situation is since breakthrough infections are occurring.
Now he gets the Trump treatment of antibodies and Rendesivir. In other words, he is is being rewarded for taking the government required shots. My guess is he knew he was going to get the virus so he double downed. Another ca Ching for Jamie Diamond and friends.
 

OnlyaSinner

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Just a silly comment, BB. He is referring to reduced oxygen because the masks capture Carbon Dioxide when you exhale into it. So the air becomes increasingly saturated with carbon dioxide, causing people to become lightheaded and pass out if exerting themselves.

peace to you
The masks capture carbon dioxide molecules while allowing viruses thousands of times larger to pass right thru? IMO, the major benefit of masks is not preventing flow-thru but in greatly reducing its velocity. If folks are shoulder to shoulder in a place with no ventilation that's not much help, but elsewhere the decreased velocity means greater dispersion before particles contact others, or why outdoor spread is lower than first thought.
 

Wingman68

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Are they still relying on the infamous tests that are either wrong or can’t tell the difference between the virus’s? And if the original c19 hasn’t been isolated……but they claim the test is believable? Some just continue to swallow the gruel & regurgitate it on us.
 

canadyjd

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On and on, folks, falsehood after falsehood, Canadyid presented falsehoods and now is charging me to hide the error. Childish!!
Read the link you claim support your view.
From an study posted on line:
These observations directly demonstrate that wearing of surgical masks or KN95 respirators, even without fit-testing, substantially reduce the number of particles emitted from breathing, talking, and coughing.

While the efficacy of cloth and paper masks is not as clear

and confounded by shedding of mask fibers, the observations indicate it is likely that they provide some reductions in emitted expiratory particles,

in particular the larger particles (> 0.5 μm).

We have not directly measured virus emission;

nonetheless, our results

strongly imply

that mask wearing will reduce emission of virus-laden aerosols and droplets associated with expiratory activities,

unless

appreciable shedding of viable viruses on mask fibers occurs.

The majority of the particles emitted were in the aerosol range (< 5 μm)
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So, just walk through it.

First the test are for surgical masks or KN95 mask. Most mask are cloth or paper. These are not tested. (Incomplete information)

The next statement is they don’t know about cloth or paper mask, but just assume they provide some protection. (Not scientific analysis:enter political assumptions)

That protection is “particular for larger particles: “greater than .5”

“The majority of particles were in the aerosol range: LESS THAN .5”

So, with the surgical and KN95 masks, there is protection for particles greater than .5, HOWEVER, the majority of particles are less than .5. so they don’t provide protection against the majority of particles.

So, the information you gave does not support your position and actually does support everything I have stated.

And so, falsehood upon falsehood, Van falsely quoted a report saying it supported his position. When I pointed out his obvious error, he falsely accuses me of falsehood.

When you live to regurgitate liberal propaganda, as Van does, no amount of truth can shame you.

peace to you
 

canadyjd

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The masks capture carbon dioxide molecules while allowing viruses thousands of times larger to pass right thru? IMO, the major benefit of masks is not preventing flow-thru but in greatly reducing its velocity. If folks are shoulder to shoulder in a place with no ventilation that's not much help, but elsewhere the decreased velocity means greater dispersion before particles contact others, or why outdoor spread is lower than first thought.
The good news is, if you are not vaccinated and exposed, you have a 99.5. % chance to survive. However, if you are elderly with preexisting conditions, your survival rate drops to 95.5%.

The vaccine is 95.% effective.

peace to you
 

Van

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SNIP
peace to you
Obviously, this poster would rather continue non-stop false claims, that admit error.
Now we see he cannot tell the difference between half a micron and 5 microns!

Masks, even cloth masks capture some aerosol size droplets. Full Stop.

Some aerosol size droplets contain virus. Full Stop

Thus masks inhibit to some degree the airborne transmission of COVID. Full Stop
 
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canadyjd

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Obviously, this poster would rather continue non-stop false claims, that admit error.
Now we see he cannot tell the difference between half a micron and 5 microns!

Masks, even cloth masks capture some aerosol size droplets. Full Stop.

Some aerosol size droplets contain virus. Full Stop

Thus masks inhibit to some degree the airborne transmission of COVID. Full Stop
Obviously, the poster doesn’t know the difference between “less than” and “greater than” and refuses to acknowledge the “study” he quoted does not support his position.

Such is the way of the liberal mind. Twist the facts when possible, cause confusion if the facts contradict you, accuse your opponent of engaging in your dishonest tactics and always remember the propaganda is the only thing that matters, “truth” depends on who is making the claim.

I’ve had enough. Thanks for the conversation.

peace to you
 

Van

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Obviously, the poster doesn’t know the difference between “less than” and “greater than” and refuses to acknowledge the “study” he quoted does not support his position.

Such is the way of the liberal mind. Twist the facts when possible, cause confusion if the facts contradict you, accuse your opponent of engaging in your dishonest tactics and always remember the propaganda is the only thing that matters, “truth” depends on who is making the claim.

I’ve had enough. Thanks for the conversation.

peace to you
Obviously, this poster would rather continue non-stop false claims, that admit error.
Now we see he cannot tell the difference between half a micron and 5 microns!

Masks, even cloth masks capture some aerosol size droplets. Full Stop.

Some aerosol size droplets contain virus. Full Stop

Thus masks inhibit to some degree the airborne transmission of COVID. Full Stop
 

Van

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(From an online article from Johns Hopkins)
Can wearing a face mask prevent coronavirus from spreading?

Yes. Although being fully vaccinated greatly reduces your chance of catching or spreading the coronavirus, it doesn’t eliminate it entirely. If you are infected with the coronavirus and do not know it, a mask is very good at keeping your respiratory droplets and particles from infecting others. If you haven’t yet received your COVID-19 vaccine, wearing a mask can also help prevent germs that come from another person’s respiratory droplets from getting into your nose and mouth.

Since the coronavirus can spread through droplets and particles released into the air by speaking, singing, coughing or sneezing, masks are still a good idea in crowded indoor public places that contain a mixture of vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals.

Wearing a mask is still recommended in health care settings and other places where people around you may have risk factors for severe consequences of COVID-19. These include people over age 65 and those living with heart disease, diabetes, obesity, chronic lung disease, immunity problems or cancer.
 
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