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Grieved over today's events in Charlottesville

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Use of Time

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McAuliffe is a spineless left wing agitator in his own right. He's very picky about whose violence he condemns. In fact, he himself is largely to blame for what is happening now. Destroying evidence of history he personally disagrees with, just like the taliban, was bound to draw a reaction from someone.


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You hypocrisy is astounding. Glad to see you are pretending to have me on ignore. Sad to see you becoming an apologist for the KKK and the Neonazis. From a veteran at that. What a shame.
 

Reynolds

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Your people? You live in America. What is it you can't do exactly?
For one thing we can't break the cycle of extreme poverty that being put on reservations created. My family would have never broken the cycle if my great grandmother had not married a "half breed" who took her off the reservation.
 

TCassidy

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If you want to argue Northern capitalism vs. Southern slavery, we can do that.

But to say that the North prevented the South from developing a diversified economy, that is just wrong.
It was more like the Northern Socialists (government control of the means of production by way of tariffs, but only in the south, of course) verses the Southern Capitalists who were not allowed to sell their cotton to France nor buy French industrial equipment due to the tariff schedule.
 

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Black lives matters was there , doing their usual racist thing. But spineless left wing apologist McAuliffe only condemns the white racists, not the out of state agitators from BLM.

Trump condemned them all, as any American should.
 
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For one thing we can't break the cycle of extreme poverty that being put on reservations created. My family would have never broken the cycle if my great grandmother had not married a "half breed" who took her off the reservation.

And the Confederacy can somehow fix this? What in the world are you even talking about?
 

JohnDeereFan

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The hatred displayed today in the city of Charlottesville is heart breaking. May God show grace and mercy to the victims of the senseless violence. There is a cancer in the heart of America that no protest can heal.

You can only poke a bear for so long until it turns on you. All these years of race baiting by the Left finally got the reaction they wanted.

I can only hope that whoever is hired to remove the statue is too intimidated to do so.
 

Reynolds

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And nuclear war isn't? Goodness gracious. Where did you study military history and tactics? What college? What degree?
I seem remember a couple of cities in Japan. It would not be nuclear war. It would be nuclear devestation. Fat boy would never be able to launch a retaliation.
Military history tells me that you had best take dictators at their word when they tell you they want to destroy you.

History would also tell me that General Forrest was one of the most effective Generals because he defied military convention.
 

Use of Time

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You can only poke a bear for so long until it turns on you. All these years of race baiting by the Left finally got the reaction they wanted.

I can only hope that whoever is hired to remove the statue is too intimidated to do so.

Yeah let's give into intimidation from the alt right white nationalists. No thanks.
 

JohnDeereFan

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Am I right in believing that Gen. Lee did not personally own any slaves?
I seem to recall reading it somewhere.

Lee did not, but his family did and he was the executor of his family's estate, which more or less consisted of him trying desperately to stave off creditors and keep his family from bankruptcy.

Lee was in a bind because, while he did not personally own slaves, he was charged with managing his family's stable of slaves and, by law, was unable to sell them.

Arlington was stolen from his family by the damnable Yankees but, ironically, if he had been able to sell his family's slaves, he might have been able to save some of their other properties.
 

JohnDeereFan

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Which part of your Confederate history? The part that convinced poor whites to fight in a disastrous war on behalf of the plutocrats who benefited from slavery and told their "inferiors" that they shouldn't question the social order because they were at least better off, and better than, the negras held in bondage? Thanks; I'll pass on that.

The statue wasn't even erected until the 1920s, when Jim Crow was king and the second KKK was running rampant. That's the legacy that's being celebrated by the monument.

Your ignorance is duly noted.
 

HankD

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Hmm, seems that all my immigrant (Italy, Prussia) grandparents came over long after the Emancipation Proclamation so nobody can hate me.

Hmm, my Prussian grandmother was Jewish...


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Use of Time

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I seem remember a couple of cities in Japan. It would not be nuclear war. It would be nuclear devestation. Fat boy would never be able to launch a retaliation.
Military history tells me that you had best take dictators at their word when they promise to destroy you

What military history tells you that?
I seem remember a couple of cities in Japan. It would not be nuclear war. It would be nuclear devestation. Fat boy would never be able to launch a retaliation.
Military history tells me that you had best take dictators at their word when they tell you they want to destroy you.

History would also tell me that General Forrest was one of the most effective Generals because he defied military convention.

You seemed upset that the Yankees "butchered your people" in this thread but here you are touting leveling two Japanese cities slaughtering thousands of civilians as a good thing. You seem to be inconsistent.
 

JohnDeereFan

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It was in our best interest to join the Confederate army.

My family fought for the Confederacy, something I am very proud of, and if I had lived during that time, I would have eagerly fought for the Confederacy too.

What reason would I have had, as a Southerner, to fight for a federal government that had nothing but contempt for me and that overreached its Constitutional bounds in order to place its hands around the throat of my family, my neighbors, and my state?

Why on Earth wouldn't I have fought for my home and my family and neighbors?
 

Reynolds

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What military history tells you that?


You seemed upset that the Yankees "butchered your people" in this thread but here you are touting leveling two Japanese cities slaughtering thousands of civilians as a good thing. You seem to be inconsistent.
No inconsistency at all.
You invaded my homeland. You stole it. You broke your treaties. You wholesale slaughtered my people to steal our land.
Japan committed acts of war against the United States. They deserved what they got. They started it, we finished it.
 

Use of Time

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No inconsistency at all.
You invaded my homeland. You stole it. You broke your treaties. You wholesale slaughtered my people to steal our land.
Japan committed acts of war against the United States. They deserved what they got. They started it, we finished it.

How old are you exactly.
 
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