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Hamas bears responsibility

Conan

Well-Known Member
Hogwash. The murder of children and women is never justified, except by the united states and Israel who calls it collateral damage. Hamas comes out of the tunnels to fight Israel. Israel leaves the area and attacks civilian areas instead. As far as hostages before october 7 operation Israel held over 5000 Palestinians in prison without being charged just held indefinitely. They wanted to trade Israeli hostages for Palestinian hostages. But Israel said no.

We killed 20% of North Korea's population. All so we could get a foot hold against China.
We killed over 2 million Vietnamese people. Not 2 million soldiers, but children and women. All to get a foot hold against China.
We put a dictator in power in Chile who murdered hundreds of thousands because they were socialist, and our billionaires can't have that.
We killed many women and children in Iraq, Afganistán, Libya, Syria.
Over 500,000 Ukrainians are dead fighting for the United States. They will be abandoned soon.
Now we allow and support the death of over 40,000 women and children, not counting any Hamas fighters.

The Bible says do not steal. But we steal Palestinian land and give it European/American settlers who are not from the Middle East. The Palestinian Jews do no such thing.
The Bible says do not Murder, but we fully supply Israel to bomb people that have no air force, not tanks, no heavy weaponry.

Our politicians fight war because thats how they make money. Murder. The United States of Murder.
 

canadyjd

Well-Known Member
Hogwash. The murder of children and women is never justified, except by the united states and Israel who calls it collateral damage.
Don’t forget to add Hamas to your list of those that murder women and children. Don’t forget Hamas gang raped, tortured women, then murdered them and then beheaded them, as well as beheading children.

And Hamas doesn’t call it “collateral damage” because they specifically targeted women and children for slaughter.

Your self righteous outrage has a distinct selective nature to it.

peace to you
 

Conan

Well-Known Member
Don’t forget to add Hamas to your list of those that murder women and children. Don’t forget Hamas gang raped, tortured women, then murdered them and then beheaded them, as well as beheading children.

And Hamas doesn’t call it “collateral damage” because they specifically targeted women and children for slaughter.

Your self righteous outrage has a distinct selective nature to it.

peace to you
All of that was propaganda and has been debunked. No one was beheaded or raped. It was false. All of it has been debunked. The media lied you believed it. The Israeli woman and her brother who wrote the article were found to be liars. The news reporter who claimed to have overheard an israeli officer say babies heads were cut off but no Israelis army officers could be found saying it. The lady lied to gain sympathy. You demonize Palestinians with false witness. Quit getting your news from the Billionaires mainstream news media. They lie for israel, joe bid0n, covid, war with Russia, war with China, war with Iran, war with Palestine, war with Syria, war with Iraq, war with Libya, war with Afghanistan, war with Vietnam, war with North Korea, installing the dictator of Chile who murdered hundreds of thousands of his citizens all because they were "socialist".
 

canadyjd

Well-Known Member
All of that was propaganda and has been debunked. No one was beheaded or raped. It was false. All of it has been debunked. The media lied you believed it. The Israeli woman and her brother who wrote the article were found to be liars. The news reporter who claimed to have overheard an israeli officer say babies heads were cut off but no Israelis army officers could be found saying it. The lady lied to gain sympathy. You demonize Palestinians with false witness. Quit getting your news from the Billionaires mainstream news media. They lie for israel, joe bid0n, covid, war with Russia, war with China, war with Iran, war with Palestine, war with Syria, war with Iraq, war with Libya, war with Afghanistan, war with Vietnam, war with North Korea, installing the dictator of Chile who murdered hundreds of thousands of his citizens all because they were "socialist".
You are delusional. The reports have been verified. Hamas intentionally targeted civilians at a music concert. They slaughtered men women and children. They brutally gang raped the women, then murdered them like the sons of Satan they are. They beheaded women and children like the sons of Satan they are.

Satan is a liar and a murderer from the beginning. Hamas is following Satan. You should not defend liars and murders of women and children.

peace to you
 

Conan

Well-Known Member
You are delusional. The reports have been verified. Hamas intentionally targeted civilians at a music concert.
No it was Israel firing at Hamas who killed scores of Israelis. That's why they buried all those vehicles which were torched by apache helicopters, to hide the evidence.
They slaughtered men women and children. They brutally gang raped the women, then murdered them like the sons of Satan they are. They beheaded women and children like the sons of Satan they are.

Not one women was raped. Not one child was targeted by Hamas. Thats western propaganda. Not one person was beheaded by Hamas. That lie was promoted to get your sympathy. So you would shut up and say nothing when Palestinian women and children were bombed from the air. Well over 40,000 outright killed not including 200,000 starved to death through lack of food the Israelis will not let through. The whole word is against this genocide, why aren't you!

Satan is a liar and a murderer from the beginning. Hamas is following Satan. You should not defend liars and murders of women and children.

YOU SHALL NOT MURDER.
YOU SHALL NOT STEAL.

peace to you

May God open your eyes to see the truth! Look through the western lies and propaganda.

We killed over 20% of North Korea's population. That wasn't 20% of their army, but population, women and children. That tiny backward nation fought us a super power to a draw.

We killed over 2 million Vietnamese. That wasn't 2 million Viet Cong and North Vietnamese army, but 2 million men, women and children. They defeated us and we withdrew their land.

We bombed Serbia simply because they were Slavs like Russians and when their Army fought us and did not give in we bombed their civilians a war crime, then they gave in. The cold war was over but we had to do them in because they were Slavs like Russians and their allies.

We killed over 1 million Iraqis through sanctions/starvation.

We destroyed Libya and its infrastructure simply because they were using their own wealth to start a gold backed African currency that North Africa could gain its independence from western powers. A war crime.

We killed hundreds of thousands in Syria.

We killed many in Afghanistan.

We overthrow governments and install puppets for US business interest.

We overthrew the government in Chile and installed a dictator who killed hundreds of thousands of civilians simply because they were socialist.

We have killed over 500,000 Ukrainians and 35,000 Russians because we hate Russians and wanted to carve up them up for our billionaires before we pivot to war with China later.

We are war mongers. When are we going to stop killing men, women, and children? God will put a stop to us one day.
 
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canadyjd

Well-Known Member
No it was Israel firing at Hamas who killed scores of Israelis. That's why they buried all those vehicles which were torched by apache helicopters, to hide the evidence.


Not one women was raped. Not one child was targeted by Hamas. Thats western propaganda. Not one person was beheaded by Hamas. That lie was promoted to get your sympathy. So you would shut up and say nothing when Palestinian women and children were bombed from the air. Well over 40,000 outright killed not including 200,000 starved to death through lack of food the Israelis will not let through. The whole word is against this genocide, why aren't you!



YOU SHALL NOT MURDER.
YOU SHALL NOT STEAL.



May God open your eyes to see the truth! Look through the western lies and propaganda.

We killed over 20% of North Korea's population. That wasn't 20% of their army, but population, women and children. That tiny backward nation fought us a super power to a draw.

We killed over 2 million Vietnamese. That wasn't 2 million Viet Cong and North Vietnamese army, but 2 million men, women and children. They defeated us and we withdrew their land.

We bombed Serbia simply because they were Slavs like Russians and when their Army fought us and did not give in we bombed their civilians a war crime, then they gave in. The cold war was over but we had to do them in because they were Slavs like Russians and their allies.

We killed over 1 million Iraqis through sanctions/starvation.

We destroyed Libya and its infrastructure simply because they were using their own wealth to start a gold backed African currency that North Africa could gain its independence from western powers. A war crime.

We killed hundreds of thousands in Syria.

We killed many in Afghanistan.

We overthrow governments and install puppets for US business interest.

We overthrew the government in Chile and installed a dictator who killed hundreds of thousands of civilians simply because they were socialist.

We have killed over 500,000 Ukrainians and 35,000 Russians because we hate Russians and wanted to carve up them up for our billionaires before we pivot to war with China later.

We are war mongers. When are we going to stop killing men, women, and children? God will put a stop to us one day.
You are a nut!!!! I’ll leave you to eat your fruit loops!!!

peace to you
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
No it was Israel firing at Hamas who killed scores of Israelis. That's why they buried all those vehicles which were torched by apache helicopters, to hide the evidence.


Not one women was raped. Not one child was targeted by Hamas. Thats western propaganda. Not one person was beheaded by Hamas. That lie was promoted to get your sympathy. So you would shut up and say nothing when Palestinian women and children were bombed from the air. Well over 40,000 outright killed not including 200,000 starved to death through lack of food the Israelis will not let through. The whole word is against this genocide, why aren't you!



YOU SHALL NOT MURDER.
YOU SHALL NOT STEAL.



May God open your eyes to see the truth! Look through the western lies and propaganda.

We killed over 20% of North Korea's population. That wasn't 20% of their army, but population, women and children. That tiny backward nation fought us a super power to a draw.

We killed over 2 million Vietnamese. That wasn't 2 million Viet Cong and North Vietnamese army, but 2 million men, women and children. They defeated us and we withdrew their land.

We bombed Serbia simply because they were Slavs like Russians and when their Army fought us and did not give in we bombed their civilians a war crime, then they gave in. The cold war was over but we had to do them in because they were Slavs like Russians and their allies.

We killed over 1 million Iraqis through sanctions/starvation.

We destroyed Libya and its infrastructure simply because they were using their own wealth to start a gold backed African currency that North Africa could gain its independence from western powers. A war crime.

We killed hundreds of thousands in Syria.

We killed many in Afghanistan.

We overthrow governments and install puppets for US business interest.

We overthrew the government in Chile and installed a dictator who killed hundreds of thousands of civilians simply because they were socialist.

We have killed over 500,000 Ukrainians and 35,000 Russians because we hate Russians and wanted to carve up them up for our billionaires before we pivot to war with China later.

We are war mongers. When are we going to stop killing men, women, and children? God will put a stop to us one day.

Delusional does not come close to saying what you are. Deranged may fit but that even falls short.

You sound like a propaganda tool for hamas. You should move there if you love them so much.
 

Conan

Well-Known Member
There is no Palestinian land. God gave all that land to Israel.
God gave some of the land to Biblical Israel. God also took it away. The Romans destroyed Jerusalem in AD 70 when they were Rome's country. Then the inhabitants rebelled against Rome around 110 and the Romans totally destroyed Israel, it ceased to exist as a nation. Many imperial powers owned it since then. The Ottoman Empire, the British Empire, many Muslim conqueror's. There never was an Israel again. There were local Palestinian Jews that lived there as well as local Christian Palestinians and Muslim Palestinians. Can you guess which Semitic race Jesus was? He was a Palestinian Jew. He was not a European or American Jew. All of the Palestinians got along, Jewish, Christian and Muslims. They watched each others children. They respected one another. Then in 1948 America and Great Britain caused a zionist Jewish nation to be born. They told European Jews, you would be happier in Israel. Why couldn't Great Britain say you can be happy here where you already live? They said instead you will be happier in Israel. The only problem with that is the Palestinians lived there already for more than 2000 years. Muslims, Christians and Jews. All Palestinians, not European or American Jews. In 1949 European Jews attacked and killed Palestinians and drove them from areas of Israel into Gaza. Its been going on ever since. Army soldiers will come to a Palestinians house and make them leave and it is taken over by "settlers" European and American white Jews, not Palestinian Jews who could never do such a thing. Zionist Jews think the land is theirs and steal the land to this day. It has never stopped. The Palestinian non-zionist Jews protest the treatment of Palestinian Muslims and Christians. By the way 20% of Gazas inhabitants are Christians. Zionist, White European and American Jews are the ones stealing the land and killing Palestinians, Muslims and Christians. Local Palestinian Jews protest those actions. Their is a huge difference between zionist and Judaism. They are 2 different things. Judaism is a Religion. Modern day Zionism is a political group. American, European political will, an unsinkable aircraft carrier in the land of oil. Arab land.

Being anti-Semitic is hating the Arab race, you know, Palestinian Jews, Palestinian Muslims, and Palestinian Christians. European and American Jews are not of the Semitic race, but are White. Not like Jesus. Jesus was a Semitic Jew. He was not European White.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
All of that was propaganda and has been debunked. No one was beheaded or raped. It was false. All of it has been debunked. The media lied you believed it. The Israeli woman and her brother who wrote the article were found to be liars. The news reporter who claimed to have overheard an israeli officer say babies heads were cut off but no Israelis army officers could be found saying it. The lady lied to gain sympathy. You demonize Palestinians with false witness. Quit getting your news from the Billionaires mainstream news media. They lie for israel, joe bid0n, covid, war with Russia, war with China, war with Iran, war with Palestine, war with Syria, war with Iraq, war with Libya, war with Afghanistan, war with Vietnam, war with North Korea, installing the dictator of Chile who murdered hundreds of thousands of his citizens all because they were "socialist".
I'm not sure the "Hamas murdered over 1k civilians and kidnapped over 200.....but they didn't rape or behead anybody" consists of a moral argument.

That said, Hanas did decapitate Adir Tahar. And the recovered nude bodies of women showing signs of sexual abuse may indicate sexual misconduct.
 

Conan

Well-Known Member
Delusional does not come close to saying what you are. Deranged may fit but that even falls short.

You sound like a propaganda tool for hamas. You should move there if you love them so much.
May God open your eyes to the killing of women and children . You shall not murder. You shall not steal.
 

Conan

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure the "Hamas murdered over 1k civilians and kidnapped over 200.....but they didn't rape or behead anybody" consists of a moral argument.

That said, Hanas did decapitate Adir Tahar. And the recovered nude bodies of women showing signs of sexual abuse may indicate sexual misconduct.
Question. Who started Hamas? Remember there was only the Palestine Liberation Army (PLO) of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. What western power (and person) created Hamas to divide the PLO?
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Question. Who started Hamas? Remember there was only the Palestine Liberation Army (PLO) of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. What western power (and person) created Hamas to divide the PLO?
It started in the 80's as a part of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood. In (or around....I can't recall the exact date) 2005 Israel withdrew from Gaza and Hamas took over the Gaza Strip a couple of years later with the stated goal is to reclaim Israel. It was started by Ahmed Yassin.
 

canadyjd

Well-Known Member
Independent journalist. Way back in in October.
Name? Publication? Do you expect us to believe take your word for it?

Did Hamas even go into Israel? Do you believe Israel slaughtered 1100+ of their own people as an excuse to attack?

You are anti-west propagandist and you are not convincing anybody around here that Hamas didn’t slaughter women and children like the sons of Satan they are.

They gang raped and murdered the women and beheaded them and children because they believe people that are beheaded or burned to death can’t get into heaven.

They are acting like their father, Satan, who is a liar and murderer from the beginning.

peace to you
 

Conan

Well-Known Member
Name? Publication? Do you expect us to believe take your word for it?

Did Hamas even go into Israel? Do you believe Israel slaughtered 1100+ of their own people as an excuse to attack?

You are anti-west propagandist and you are not convincing anybody around here that Hamas didn’t slaughter women and children like the sons of Satan they are.

They gang raped and murdered the women and beheaded them and children because they believe people that are beheaded or burned to death can’t get into heaven.

They are acting like their father, Satan, who is a liar and murderer from the beginning.

peace to you
Things you are saying is not true. You want me to search for the videos by independent journalist that I watched in October, November, December of last year? If you were really interested I would do it for you.
 

Conan

Well-Known Member
It started in the 80's as a part of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood. In (or around....I can't recall the exact date) 2005 Israel withdrew from Gaza and Hamas took over the Gaza Strip a couple of years later with the stated goal is to reclaim Israel. It was started by Ahmed Yassin.
The current Netanyahu and Israel created Hamas to divide the Palestinian Liberation Army. They were successful. Remember the Onslow accords? The two State solution? Zionist will never accept a two state solution, but American and Palestinian Jews will. But not zionist Jews.
 
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