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37818

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You're making the mistake of believing the evening of the 14th day of Nisan was at nightfall and beyond.

It wasn't, it was in the afternoon. At sunset Wed. began, the 15th day of Nisan.

The 9th hour is famous in the Scripture to referring to the evening sacrifice at 3pm.
You got it wrong.
You seem to have confused the Hebrew idiom with the beginning of the Jewish calendar dates.
Evening singular. And between the evenings plural. This Hebrew idiom only occurs total of 11 times in three books of Law.

Exodus 12:6.
Exodus 16:12.
Exodus 29:39.
Exodus 29:41.
Exodus 30:8.

Leviticus 23:5.

Numbers 9:3.
Numbers 9:5.
Numbers 9:11.
Numbers 28:4.
Numbers 28:8.
 

Charlie24

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You got it wrong.
You seem to have confused the Hebrew idiom with the beginning of the Jewish calendar dates.
Evening singular. And between the evenings plural. This Hebrew idiom only occurs total of 11 times in three books of Law.

Exodus 12:6.
Exodus 16:12.
Exodus 29:39.
Exodus 29:41.
Exodus 30:8.

Leviticus 23:5.

Numbers 9:3.
Numbers 9:5.
Numbers 9:11.
Numbers 28:4.
Numbers 28:8.

Exodus 12:3-8

They were to select the sacrifice on the 10th day of Nisan, keep it until the 14th day of Nisan.

Kill the sacrifice on the evening of the 14th "between the evenings" which is 3pm the same time Christ would die on the Cross.

They were to eat the sacrifice beginning at sundown on the 14th which began the 15th with the unleavened bread and bitter herbs.

It was the 15th, the first day of Unleavened Bread. The High Day in John 19:31.
 

Charlie24

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Exodus 12:3-8

They were to select the sacrifice on the 10th day of Nisan, keep it until the 14th day of Nisan.

Kill the sacrifice on the evening of the 14th "between the evenings" which is 3pm the same time Christ would die on the Cross.

They were to eat the sacrifice beginning at sundown on the 14th which began the 15th with the unleavened bread and bitter herbs.

It was the 15th, the first day of Unleavened Bread. The High Day in John 19:31.

I think here is the problem.

Remember when I told you in Jewish tradition the evening begins with the descension of the sun?

The evening begins when afternoon begins after the noon hour.

If you measure the time between this time at the beginning of the first evening to the sunset the following evening you will come to between 3-5PM. This is the time of the daily evening sacrifice and the same time as the Passover at Christs' crucifixion.
 

Charlie24

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I think here is the problem.

Remember when I told you in Jewish tradition the evening begins with the descension of the sun?

The evening begins when afternoon begins after the noon hour.

If you measure the time between this time at the beginning of the first evening to the sunset the following evening you will come to between 3-5PM. This is the time of the daily evening sacrifice and the same time as the Passover at Christs' crucifixion.

Now can you make out the timing of the preparation day the 14th when they killed the sacrifice at 3PM and ate the meal beginning at sunset which was the beginning of the 15th?
 

Charlie24

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I understand that is your opinion .
It would seem we cannot agree.

How do you explain Deuteronomy 16:8?
It being the 15th to the 21st?

The first day and the last day of Unleavened Bread are High days.

The first day of Unleavened Bread, 15th Nisan

The last day of Unleavened Bread, 21st Nisan

The 7th day in Duet. 16:8 is the last day of Unleavened Bread.
 

Charlie24

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The first day and the last day of Unleavened Bread are High days.

The first day of Unleavened Bread, 15th Nisan

The last day of Unleavened Bread, 21st Nisan

The 7th day in Duet. 16:8 is the last day of Unleavened Bread.

Are you using the definition of "between the evenings" meaning as the Sadducees taught it, from sunset the dark? Taht woud be a time period of around 60 minutes. Or what is your definition of "between the evenings?
 

37818

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Now can you make out the timing of the preparation day the 14th when they killed the sacrifice at 3PM and ate the meal beginning at sunset which was the beginning of the 15th?
No.
The first day and the last day of Unleavened Bread are High days.

The first day of Unleavened Bread, 15th Nisan

The last day of Unleavened Bread, 21st Nisan

The 7th day in Duet. 16:8 is the last day of Unleavened Bread.
Deuteronomy 16:8, Six days thou shalt eat unleavened bread: . . . ? Why say 6 days?
 

Charlie24

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No.
Deuteronomy 16:8, Six days thou shalt eat unleavened bread: . . . ? Why say 6 days?

Because the 7th day is a High Sabbath Day.

All of Israel could do no work just as the weekly Sabbath but the exception on the last day to Unleavened Bread Sabbath was that all the people gathered together in worship to the Lord.
 

Charlie24

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Because the 7th day is a High Sabbath Day.

All of Israel could do no work just as the weekly Sabbath but the exception on the last day to Unleavened Bread Sabbath was that all the people gathered together in worship to the Lord.

From what I understand on that day they got together singing hymns, praying and worshiping, probably a lot Torah quoting going on.

You know like the Jews you see at the Western Wall on tv wrapped in shrouds and ribbons everywhere quoting the Torah.
 
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37818

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Because the 7th day is a High Sabbath Day.

All of Israel could do no work just as the weekly Sabbath but the exception on the last day to Unleavened Bread Sabbath was that all the people gathered together in worship to the Lord.
Why say the 6 days, no longer the 7?
Deuteronomy 16:8, Six days thou shalt eat unleavened bread: . . . ?
 

37818

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. . . I know in Exodus 12:15 they ate unleavened bread 7 days.
Exodus 12:15, Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.

Exodus 12:18, In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at even, ye shall eat unleavened bread, until the one and twentieth day of the month at even.

The 7 days of unleavened bread.
The 14th through the 20th.
But the 7 days of the feast of unleavened bread.
The 15th through the 21st.
It per Deuteronomy 16:8 only has 6 of the 7 days of unleavened bread.
 

37818

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Evening singular. And between the evenings plural. This Hebrew idiom only occurs total of 11 times in three books of Law.

Exodus 12:6.
Exodus 16:12.
Exodus 29:39.
Exodus 29:41.
Exodus 30:8.

Leviticus 23:5.

Numbers 9:3.
Numbers 9:5.
Numbers 9:11.
Numbers 28:4.
Numbers 28:8.
 

Charlie24

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Everyone does not agree Christ was crucified on the preparation day.

Well they are just plain ignorant if they don't!

John 19:13-14

"When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha.

And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!”

Luke 23:52-54

"This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.

And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.

And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.
 

37818

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John 19:14, And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

All 7 days of the Passover feast are a preparation per Numbers 28:24.

. . . After this manner ye shall offer daily, throughout the seven days, the meat of the sacrifice made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the LORD: it shall be offered beside the continual burnt offering, and his drink offering.
 

Charlie24

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John 19:14, And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

All 7 days of the Passover feast are a preparation per Numbers 28:24.

. . . After this manner ye shall offer daily, throughout the seven days, the meat of the sacrifice made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the LORD: it shall be offered beside the continual burnt offering, and his drink offering.

Say what????

At the very moment Christ was laid in the tomb the people were finishing up with the preparation for the Passover meal that was to be eaten at sundown which began the first day of Unleavened Bread. the 15th of Nisan. The High Sabbath Day would begin in minutes.

The Passover meal is the very first order of celebration beginning the 7 days of the feast of Unleavened Bread.
 
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