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Hate And Haters

FollowTheWay

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Depends on the views. If you're pro abortion and pro gay marriage, I highly doubt you've come to a saving knowledge of Christ and have the Holy Spirit. Those run too counter to the enlightening of the Holy Spirit. Are those among the liberal views you're throwing out there?
For one thing, Trump publicly stated that he is pro-choice throughout the term of a pregnancy and has only given lip service to the GOP "pro-life" position. Those who clearly demonstrate hatred for large groups of people are decidedly not in line with Jesus' message of love for your neighbor and even your enemy. Trump hates blacks, Muslims, Hispanics and all immigrants. Anyone supporting a position of hate in not born-again.
 

Calminian

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What exactly is he actually doing. His immigration plan which violated the first amendment was clearly unconstitutional. Thank goodness that was recognized by the courts. ...

Well the courts are fine with everything else, and when Gorsuch gets in and they over rule the 9th Circus I'm sure you respect it.
 

FollowTheWay

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Well the courts are fine with everything else, and when Gorsuch gets in and they over rule the 9th Circus I'm sure you respect it.
As a patriotic American, I resent your denigration of our judicial system. But you're just following your emperor Donnie.
 

Calminian

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For one thing, Trump publicly stated that he is pro-choice throughout the term of a pregnancy...

But you should be fine with Trump's liberal past since you're a democrat right? BTW, I used to also be pro choice. So?

And I noticed you haven't answer the question. Are you for legalized abortion?
 

Calminian

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As a patriotic American, I resent your denigration of our judicial system. But you're just following your emperor Donnie.

I reserve the right to criticize anyone. and yes, i'm fond of the Donald. one of the best politicians we've ever had.

and you still haven't answer the legalized abortion question. are you afraid to answer? ashamed?
 

HankD

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You know, sometimes peace isn't possible. Scripture says "When possible be a peace with all men." That means sometimes you have to fight verbally or otherwise. Even Christ was sharp at times.
Agreed, but there is always hope among the people of God.

HankD
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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As for me, I like Trump. If that's "all in" so be it. I've liked his evolution on politics and believe he closer to judeo-christian conservatism than anyone else in the Republican party right now. We have a lot of smooth talkers but very few doers. He not only believes in a conservative supreme court but also outlandish ideas like patriotism, nationalism and border security. Nobody will fight for those causes any harder that Trump. I say we got lucky.
And he loves Putin, what a guy!
 

HankD

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For one thing, Trump publicly stated that he is pro-choice throughout the term of a pregnancy and has only given lip service to the GOP "pro-life" position.
Credible evidence please.
Those who clearly demonstrate hatred for large groups of people are decidedly not in line with Jesus' message of love for your neighbor and even your enemy. Trump hates blacks, Muslims, Hispanics and all immigrants. Anyone supporting a position of hate in not born-again.
How about - He does not hate these groups of people. He is doing his job to protect the nation from evil no matter the form or the cunning it takes.
All of humanity is capable of extreme evil.

HankD
 

Calminian

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Agreed, but there is always hope among the people of God.

HankD

Exactly. Sometimes you're only dealing with professing people of God. Liberalism is not about benign opinions. It often sets itself directly against God. That's why I believe Churches have made a grave mistake depoliticizing themselves. It only opens the door for unbelievers to infiltrate.
 

HankD

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Let me be clear—I am pro-life. I support that position with exceptions allowed for rape, incest or the life of the mother being at risk. I did not always hold this position, but I had a significant personal experience that brought the precious gift of life into perspective for me. My story is well documented, so I will not retell it here. However, what I will do with the remaining space is express my feelings about life, and the culture of life, as we approach the 43nd anniversary of the Roe v. Wade.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-...p-for-president-inc.-oped-the-culture-of-life

HankD
 

ChrisTheSaved

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What exactly is he actually doing. His immigration plan which violated the first amendment was clearly unconstitutional. Thank goodness that was recognized by the courts. He exhibits no knowledge about national security or international diplomacy and has seriously denigrated our long-term allies like those in NATO while praising our enemies in Russia. He has endangered national security by speaking opening in his FLA. resort about a significant national security issue, the missile test by N. Korea. There is still no evidence that he has separated himself from his business ventures raising questions about his motivation for doing anything as president. He has offered no ideas about a GOP obsession to repeal Obamacare. I believe that his relationship with V Putin is looking more and more like Watergate except far more serious. Just what has he done except spend his first 3 weekends as president in FLA?


So you are saying the President of the United States has no right to ban people from entering the US? Ok open up the boarders, FTW and the most over turned court in the US say let them all in.

Trump has zero relationship with Putin and the Russians....Obama and Hillary do/did

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Calminian

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For one thing, Trump publicly stated that he is pro-choice throughout the term of a pregnancy and has only given lip service to the GOP "pro-life" position. Those who clearly demonstrate hatred for large groups of people are decidedly not in line with Jesus' message of love for your neighbor and even your enemy. Trump hates blacks, Muslims, Hispanics and all immigrants. Anyone supporting a position of hate in not born-again.

I've done the same. I used to be pro choice and argued for it vehemently. Guess I'm not good enough for you either.
 

HankD

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So you are saying the President of the United States has no right to ban people from entering the US? Ok open up the boarders, FTW and the most over turned court in the US say let them all in.

Trump has zero relationship with Putin and the Russians....Obama and Hillary do/did

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HankD
 

FollowTheWay

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I've done the same. I used to be pro choice and argued for it vehemently. Guess I'm not good enough for you either.
Trump has NEVER really renounced the views he expressed on this video. Actually, it's hard to know what he really believes since he lies so much.
 

FollowTheWay

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But you should be fine with Trump's liberal past since you're a democrat right? BTW, I used to also be pro choice. So?

And I noticed you haven't answer the question. Are you for legalized abortion?
I answered it on another thread. I do not believe in the whole-sale abortion that the REPUBLICAN Supreme Court (6 R and 3 D) made legal in Roe vs. Wade. I would make exceptions for rape/incest and if the mother's life is in danger. But the larger issue is the sanctity of life. Do you accept the murder of civilians in wars of aggression or even the combatants? Over MILLION Vietnamese died in the Viet Nam war. Hundreds of thousands died in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Do you care about the lives of these people or only those of the unborn?
 

Rolfe

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Politically liberal Christians tend to be self righteous and unforgiving.

A quick look at some of the posts by Trump's more rabid supporters in the Politics Section of this site could cause one to think that it is not confined to Liberals.
 
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