Have the "gifts of the spirit" ceased?

All Men's Opinions, none of which can be solidly proven by scripture. Further more, The Bible we have today, ISN'T PERFECT. It's rant full of errors, the worst of them is the KJV.

 

On number 4 we must also remember that the Lord's Supper was abused. That doesn't mean that we should do away with the Lord's Supper.
If we throw out everything that has been abused we would be in trouble.
I am glad to hear you say that we should not attack individuals or denominations. There are a few people that are constantly slamming certain ministers and Denominations. I think it it is time for that to stop. Thanks for saying something Dr. Bob.

 

Yes, Dr Bob this is your opinion and I respect that, but in your opinion above and what us of the Spirit Filled denominations see (atleast I think this is what it is? I'll stand corrected if I'm wrong.) The scripture in 1Cor.13:8-10,12 is the one that seems to show up and seems to be a pivotal point on the debate of Spiritual gifts. Does any one else see this? One group says that "No, that which is in part is come", saying its the written Word...while others say it is talking about the 2nd comming of Jesus. verse 8 says 3 things will vanish away 1.prophecies 2.tongues 3.knowledge....to me it seems like theres still quite a few smart ladies and gentlemen here that are knowledgable, the word tongues is plural so I take that as many/divers and it seems like we can still communicate.....that leaves prophecy, have all prophecies been fullfilled?

Music4Him

 

Dr. Bob Griffin, with all due respect, you have your opinion, but let's look at the facts!

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/pentecostal/New-Ch11.htm

As far as the Word of God/Bible being that which is perfect/complete, I believe that it is talking about the Bridegroom returning for His Bride, which is the rapture of "The Church" or the end of the Gentile dispensation.

MEE

 

I am undecided about the "tongues" issue, myself.
In my opion, people deeply given over to emotion tend to "exhibit" this more than those who are more intellectual. (I am not saying one temperment is better than another)What I mean is: A person't tempermant seems to be the qualifier.
If speaking in tongues is still current, it is most rare.

 

With all respect, to use the "arguement" that Jesus is "the same yesterday, today, and forever" cannot be applied to this issue. Example: we are no longer forbidden certain foods. Does that mean that Jesus has changed?

 

There ARE guidelines for tongues in the New Testament. Many in the modern charismatic movement are repeating the error of the Corinthian church in my opinion.

God can do as He wishes, but not in a manner contrary to His Word. What I see and hear from a lot of charismatics is "well, that's your opinion," even if the Scripture is plain, "but my/or experience is..." That alone should set off alarm bells. That attitude sets your experience against Scripture. That qualifies as liberalism, neo-orthodoxy, or Roman Catholicism. Take your pick, but all three set experience over against Scripture. That is not evangelical Christianity, no matter what you say.

Finally, ecstatic utterance is very common in many religions. What passes for tongues today is usually ecstatic utterance. Since other religions share the same experience, that is a sure sign of the inauthentic nature of modern tongues in most, but not all, situations. How do we know the difference? By the rules in Scripture as Dr. Griffin says.

 

Really? Then no one even checked out the post that I tried to bring to the other moderaters attention from another moderator (who I thought was suppost to be not partical but to keep peace (but only stirred up stife). What SAH said was mild in comparison.

music4Him

 

Yes, Dr Bob this is your opinion and I respect that, but in your opinion above and what us of the Spirit Filled denominations see (atleast I think this is what it is? I'll stand corrected if I'm wrong.) The scripture in 1Cor.13:8-10,12 is the one that seems to show up and seems to be a pivotal point on the debate of Spiritual gifts. Does any one else see this? One group says that "No, that which is in part is come", saying its the written Word...while others say it is talking about the 2nd comming of Jesus. verse 8 says 3 things will vanish away 1.prophecies 2.tongues 3.knowledge....to me it seems like theres still quite a few smart ladies and gentlemen here that are knowledgable, the word tongues is plural so I take that as many/divers and it seems like we can still communicate.....that leaves prophecy, have all prophecies been fullfilled?

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Any theology majors want to answer the above quote? (1Cor.13:8-10,12)

Music4Him

 

Dr. Bob said-------Baptist still post and debate. Sadly, SAH just showed some of the most vile and unchristian conduct I have ever seen on the BB. And we have had some lulus in the past.---

If the posters cannot say anything about a particular person, shouldn't that go for moderators too???

Waiting for an answer.

Tam

 

Awwww come on .....please reconcider giving SeekingAfterHim another chance. I have endured worse on these threads in the short time I was here. Please Mrs Moderator with sugar on top? Whatta ya say?

Yours truely,
Music4Him

 

Music 4 Him, please check your pm's.
I typed it in tongues, figure it out. (j/k)
Gina

 

This kind of stuff need to stop!!

 

Wow! Gina and you know what....I had no problem interpretating it either.

Has any one ((((Hugged))))) a Moderator today? :grin:

Music4Him