Have/would you take the Covid vaccine?

[percho]

Did Jesus believe in a God Who would have kept Him safe if He had jumped off of the pinnacle of the Temple?

I'm sure He did.

So did He jump?

Nope. "You shall not put the Lord your God to the test." (Luke 4:9-12)

You using Satan's argument. Except Satan made a stronger one, since he used scripture:

“‘He will command his angels concerning you, to guard you,’​

and

“‘On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone.’”
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Shall we yield to the temptation of Satan or follow in the example of Christ?

Did Jesus believe in a God who could save him out of death? I'm sure he did.

And did he, even being Son (of God), learn, through the things he suffered. the obedience?

What obedience was that? The obedience of Rom 5:19 through which comes righteousness?
Rom 5:19 for as through the disobedience of the one man, the many were constituted sinners: so also through the obedience of the one, shall the many be constituted righteous.

Is that the same righteousness which is, by (Or, out of) faith? Out of Faith, being faith being in the genitive.
Gal 3:24 so that the law became our child-conductor -- to Christ, that by faith we may be declared righteous,

Did the Son of God learn, Obedience of Faith?

I believe the phrase:
The just shall live by faith. Romans 1:17 Gal 3:11 Hebrews 10:38

Is the fulfillment of prophecy relative to the Son's learned obedience. Hab 2:4 Behold, he whose soul is not upright in him shall fail, but the righteous shall live by his faith.

We will be declared righteous to live, out of faith of him.

Luke 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

 

[thomas15]

All of this is why, my friends, we must stand ready and stay alert and always always always keep in mind that our God and our Savior, He is in control.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Did Jesus believe in a God who could save him out of death? I'm sure he did.

Absolutely.

And did he, even being Son (of God), learn, through the things he suffered. the obedience?

Yes. But we shouldn't seek suffering. Enough suffering will find us if we live a righteous life. We should not cause ourselves to suffer by doing evil or stupid things.

Did the Son of God learn, Obedience of Faith?

Yes. He paved the way for us to learn righteousness so that we can be confirmed in righteousness for all eternity.

A righteous act would be to take appropriate healthcare precautions that include social distancing, masks, and the vaccine. It is righteous because it is good stewardship of our body. Our bodies are not our own, they are bought with a price. It is also righteous because it is a pro-life action that will help others retain their life and health. In other words, it is good for our neighbors and those we haven't yet met.

 

[Mikoo]

Absolutely.


Yes. But we shouldn't seek suffering. Enough suffering will find us if we live a righteous life. We should not cause ourselves to suffer by doing evil or stupid things.


Yes. He paved the way for us to learn righteousness so that we can be confirmed in righteousness for all eternity.

A righteous act would be to take appropriate healthcare precautions that include social distancing, masks, and the vaccine. It is righteous because it is good stewardship of our body. Our bodies are not our own, they are bought with a price. It is also righteous because it is a pro-life action that will help others retain their life and health. In other words, it is good for our neighbors and those we haven't yet met.

I don’t always agree with all that you post, but I agree with you here.

 

[Stratton7]

Our bodies are not our own, they are bought with a price. It is also righteous because it is a pro-life action that will help others retain their life and health. In other words, it is good for our neighbors and those we haven't yet met.

You’re correct, our bodies are not our own which is why I think we should be cautious.
I just know in the 1970’s the Swine Flu vax was pulled after 25 deaths. Vax in general are pulled after 50 deaths. We’ve had 3500 deaths. I’m guessing the numbers far exceed this than are willing to be recorded. Regardless, it’s over 50 and still declared safe and effective. Over 14 different strains now known of and the vax was made only for the first strain. In the past, we just quarantined those who were sick. This time, we quarantined all those who were healthy too.
Something just doesn’t sit well with the whole thing and much is obvious what is going on.

 

[percho]

Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the LORD,

and of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou dost not eat of it, for in the day of thine eating of it -- dying thou dost die.'

Well, what I think we should do is, have four companies create a, "vaccine," in lest than a year (They actually did it in less than two weeks) to give to the whole world that will negate this virus, Well, maybe and maybe not, you will probably still get it. And who knows (knowledge) it might do other things to the body also.

Where is the end of the line?

Give us enough time and we will do away with, "dying thou dost die".

Science!

 

[Baptist Believer]

Well, what I think we should do is, have four companies create a, "vaccine," in lest than a year (They actually did it in less than two weeks) to give to the whole world that will negate this virus,

The premise that the vaccine was cobbled together extremely fast is misleading. There had already been a massive amount of research for vaccines like the COVID-19 vaccine, but they were experimental. With the rise of COVID-19, it was a matter of quickly isolating the virus and determining which path the vaccine makers needed to go to create a workable vaccine. The part that took the longest time was the testing phase, to ensure that the vaccines were safe to administer. The primary work to create the vaccine has been ongoing for decades.

 

[Wingman68]

#BeKind and #StaySafe, or else! | Patrick Fagan | The Critic Magazine

Do you feel ‘nudged’ today? This article is worth a read, & if you take the time, notice that the phrase ‘build back better’ is not something that originated in the mind of Biden, because little originates in the mind of Biden these days. I am nudging you to be aware of everything, & the motives behind what you are being nudged to do, just as this author states.

 

[percho]

The premise that the vaccine was cobbled together extremely fast is misleading. There had already been a massive amount of research for vaccines like the COVID-19 vaccine, but they were experimental. With the rise of COVID-19, it was a matter of quickly isolating the virus and determining which path the vaccine makers needed to go to create a workable vaccine. The part that took the longest time was the testing phase, to ensure that the vaccines were safe to administer. The primary work to create the vaccine has been ongoing for decades.

There had already been a massive amount of research for vaccines

You are correct, Sir. I wonder why?

They actually started on the following in the US until President Obama told them it was to dangerous, so they moved it somewhere else. Where?

Do you believe and trust this Dr.? Dr. Fauci Dismisses Questions About Gain-Of-Function Research From Sen. Rand Paul: "Completely Incorrect" | Video | RealClearPolitics

Why did they have a head start? Because they wanted a, "vaccine"? To sell? How much have the big four already been paid?

I wonder if the Dr.'s swiss bank account has increased lately?

 

[Baptist Believer]

There had already been a massive amount of research for vaccines

You are correct, Sir. I wonder why?

I don't have to wonder. Obviously, it is to help humankind (researcher and drug company motive) and make a profit (drug company motive).

They actually started on the following in the US until President Obama told them it was to dangerous, so they moved it somewhere else.

Who is "they" and where is the evidence that "they" moved this specific "gain-of-function" research out of the US?

Do you believe and trust this Dr.?

Yes. Especially if it is a choice between him and Rand Paul (a person totally unqualified to make pronouncements regarding the field of epidemiology), I trust Fauci.

Why did they have a head start?

Because scientists do research for the long-term effect of helping humankind. Each discovery opens new possibilities, and discoveries built upon one another enable breakthroughs.

You really need to familiarize yourself with pure science. It is done at universities and companies all over the world.

Because they wanted a, "vaccine"?

Sure. Vaccines save countless lives. I've been doing genealogical work along my family line, and there was a very high rate of death from disease -- especially among children -- that was tragic. I also grew up with teachers and other adults who had bodily abnormalities caused by polio. They were among the fortunate ones, since many simply died from polio.

Why would anyone NOT want a vaccine?

To sell?

Should drug companies give everything away for free? If so, who would pay for research, production, distribution, employee salaries, etc.?

How much have the big four already been paid?

Probably not enough. They deserve to be paid for their efforts.

I wonder if the Dr.'s swiss bank account has increased lately?

Please provide documentation that Dr. Fauci even has a Swiss bank account.

If you don't have documentation of that, then you are making an assumption and then throwing a conspiratorial accusation on top of it.

What's wrong with you?

 

[Gold Dragon]

There are multiple reasons why the vaccines were developed so quickly but primarily it was:

1. A lot of the research started with SARS back in 2003 which was a very similar coronavirus which is why the current virus is called SARS-Cov2. But since SARS1 didn’t last, funding dried up for the vaccines and they were shelved but brought back to life by covid19.

2. Money. Tons of money was poured into research because of the urgency of the situation. Most vaccine development does not get that kind of funding and thus moves much slower. Also governments took on the risk of paying for production before the studies were complete so that once the approval was finished, we could hit the ground running. That never happens for other vaccines.

3. Collaboration and technology. Yes China is to blame for a lot but one thing they did right was releasing the genome very quickly. They announced covid was happening Dec 31 and the sequence was published online Jan 11 allowing labs around the world to start working on it right away.

 

[percho]

I don't have to wonder. Obviously, it is to help humankind (researcher and drug company motive) and make a profit (drug company motive).


Who is "they" and where is the evidence that "they" moved this specific "gain-of-function" research out of the US?


Yes. Especially if it is a choice between him and Rand Paul (a person totally unqualified to make pronouncements regarding the field of epidemiology), I trust Fauci.


Because scientists do research for the long-term effect of helping humankind. Each discovery opens new possibilities, and discoveries built upon one another enable breakthroughs.

You really need to familiarize yourself with pure science. It is done at universities and companies all over the world.


Sure. Vaccines save countless lives. I've been doing genealogical work along my family line, and there was a very high rate of death from disease -- especially among children -- that was tragic. I also grew up with teachers and other adults who had bodily abnormalities caused by polio. They were among the fortunate ones, since many simply died from polio.

Why would anyone NOT want a vaccine?


Should drug companies give everything away for free? If so, who would pay for research, production, distribution, employee salaries, etc.?


Probably not enough. They deserve to be paid for their efforts.


Please provide documentation that Dr. Fauci even has a Swiss bank account.

If you don't have documentation of that, then you are making an assumption and then throwing a conspiratorial accusation on top of it.

What's wrong with you?

Are the following scientists? Should I be concerned about my granddaughter who has had the, "vaccine," because of what these scientists say?

Halt Covid Vaccine, Research Scientist Urges CDC (jennifermargulis.net)

 

[percho]

The premise that the vaccine was cobbled together extremely fast is misleading. There had already been a massive amount of research for vaccines like the COVID-19 vaccine, but they were experimental. With the rise of COVID-19, it was a matter of quickly isolating the virus and determining which path the vaccine makers needed to go to create a workable vaccine. The part that took the longest time was the testing phase, to ensure that the vaccines were safe to administer. The primary work to create the vaccine has been ongoing for decades.

Is this Doctor a scientist? Is he concerned about humanity? Is he selling anything? Are there patients for these, "vaccines"? Who owns them?

IS COVID-19 A BIO-WEAPON? (bitchute.com)

 

[Gold Dragon]

Are the following scientists? Should I be concerned about my granddaughter who has had the, "vaccine," because of what these scientists say?

Halt Covid Vaccine, Research Scientist Urges CDC (jennifermargulis.net)

Being the author of an anti-vaccine book, she has lots of financial incentive to make it appear like the vaccines are dangerous.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Is this Doctor a scientist? Is he concerned about humanity? Is he selling anything? Are there patients for these, "vaccines"? Who owns them?

IS COVID-19 A BIO-WEAPON? (bitchute.com)

This guy plead guilty to health care fraud once already.

Doctor Sentenced in Health Care Fraud Scheme

Also no longer has his license to prescribe.

Richard M. Fleming; Denial of Hearing; Final Debarment Order

 

[percho]

Being the author of an anti-vaccine book, she has lots of financial incentive to make it appear like the vaccines are dangerous.

Scientifically. should I or my granddaughter be concerned? I do not care about a book. I have had many vaccines.

 

[percho]

This guy plead guilty to health care fraud once already.

Doctor Sentenced in Health Care Fraud Scheme

Also no longer has his license to prescribe.

Richard M. Fleming; Denial of Hearing; Final Debarment Order

How much has J&J, Moderna and Pfizer paid in fines?

Give me a brake!

 

[Reformed1689]

I’ve been following along on many of the different views on this vaccine (not sure it’s even that.) I’d like to get an idea in the poll if anyone has/is taking it or planning to in the future. (Pretty simple)
If you have a comment about it or have selected the option “other,” please do share. Thanks.

Have not taken it, will not take it.

For the immediate reason, we have no idea what the long-term effects of the vaccine is. Only been out a few months. For the long reason, I don't see a need to take it. I don't get the flu shot either.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Scientifically. should I or my granddaughter be concerned? I do not care about a book. I have had many vaccines.

You should not be concerned with anything Jennifer Margulis says you should be concerned about.

 

[Sam_the_Brave]

I'm concerned that in a few years, some docs will say that they shouldn't have given some of the vaccines to people. They are already backtracking on a particular one. That said, something has to be done, because I have personally known people become seriously ill from Covid. I think, on balance, I will get the vaccine.