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Have/would you take the Covid vaccine?

Have/would you take the Covid vaccine?


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RipponRedeaux

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My two weeks is up today. Have had no side effects from either shot.

Now, lets get rid of this silly mask
I walk around with a naked face at grocery stores, post offices, church etc. No one has said a word to me. I'd still be unmuzzled even if challenged. I like breathing freely.
When I see the mass of masked ones I think this must by an episode of the Twilight Zone. But since it has gone on for so long it must be a series.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I walk around with a naked face at grocery stores, post offices, church etc. No one has said a word to me. I'd still be unmuzzled even if challenged. I like breathing freely.
When I see the mass of masked ones I think this must by an episode of the Twilight Zone. But since it has gone on for so long it must be a series.
Yup it is, like a bad dream.
 

AustinC

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Got my shots. No big deal. At least it didn't leave a scar like my smallpox vaccination when I was a kid.

I have enough friends who have been miserable and at least one church member who died from Covid that getting the vaccine was an easy decision.
 

percho

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I'm concerned that in a few years, some docs will say that they shouldn't have given some of the vaccines to people. They are already backtracking on a particular one. That said, something has to be done, because I have personally known people become seriously ill from Covid. I think, on balance, I will get the vaccine.

Did you read the post where there have had to be law suits to be treated and have gotten well after having been written off in hospitals? t

Should it be a crime for a hospital to know of a treatment that, "might," work yet let one die on a ventilator and be sued to try the treatment? Have they become oath breakers, because of the dollar?

You do understand MSM and social media have censored this information?

It depended upon who your Doctor was and what he believed.
 
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percho

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Earth Wind and Fire

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Absolutely.


Yes. But we shouldn't seek suffering. Enough suffering will find us if we live a righteous life. We should not cause ourselves to suffer by doing evil or stupid things.


Yes. He paved the way for us to learn righteousness so that we can be confirmed in righteousness for all eternity.

A righteous act would be to take appropriate healthcare precautions that include social distancing, masks, and the vaccine. It is righteous because it is good stewardship of our body. Our bodies are not our own, they are bought with a price. It is also righteous because it is a pro-life action that will help others retain their life and health. In other words, it is good for our neighbors and those we haven't yet met.
I’m with you up to the vaccine statement. There has been far too many contradictory reports indicating health risks. Sorry but nobody in my family will be taking them until “the science” publicly addresses the risks associated with the vaccines. Honestly all I’ve had from my doctor is , “we have an allotted supply of vaccine so come and get them.” Yea, go chase yourself!
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Got my shots. No big deal. At least it didn't leave a scar like my smallpox vaccination when I was a kid.

I have enough friends who have been miserable and at least one church member who died from Covid that getting the vaccine was an easy decision.
Now you can get a beer and French frys! Congratulations
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Scientifically. should I or my granddaughter be concerned? I do not care about a book. I have had many vaccines.
Yes, you need to be conserned if you want to protect both your health and the health of your family. How much do you integrate with other people? Do you have any existing health conditions (especially heart and lung/respiratory). Are you a diabetic? Are you comfortable signing a waver for the vaccine? Comfortable being a Lab test? Now should you be taking any chemotherapy then research how it will affect you and the efficacy of the vaccine when taken with chemo.

Bluntly, yes you need to be concerned! :Unsure
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Ya know, there is a myriad of questions floating around and surfacing about these vax’s , mostly being ignored by the medical profession and the liberal press... and it’s just insulting to see the marketing hype being used to promote getting the vaccine ... ie A shot & a beer, free fries, lottery tickets etc. Just address the issues and do it directly for Pete’s sake. Like what are the risks, what are the statistics (numbers) ... stuff like that. Quit the bs then maybe when people feel they have the facts, weighed the advantages vs disadvantages then more people will do the right thing.
 

AustinC

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Now you can get a beer and French frys! Congratulations
They didn't serve milk stout so that's no good.
I chose the vaccine because it beats getting sick or dying from Covid. If you would rather get Covid, that's your choice.
Both of us know we are held in God's hand and have no fear of death so that's not a factor. However, now that I have the vaccine, I can go back into nursing homes and get back to prison ministry that has been shutdown for 14 months. I will gladly take the shot if it provides greater opportunity to minister.
 

Stratton7

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Did you read the post where there have had to be law suits to be treated and have gotten well after having been written off in hospitals? t

Should it be a crime for a hospital to know of a treatment that, "might," work yet let one die on a ventilator and be sued to try the treatment? Have they become oath breakers, because of the dollar?

You do understand MSM and social media have censored this information?

It depended upon who your Doctor was and what he believed.
I don’t know if it’s about the dollar, maybe included, but I think there’s a more sinister agenda at hand.
 

Gold Dragon

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Any guess on how many Doctors in America have these same concerns? What would be your best guess? Are they all idiots?

You could probably count on your hand the number doctors in the world that would have those concerns presented by her. I would question their judgement as doctors if they listened to conspiracy theorists who cherry pick data out of context to spin a narrative instead of reading evidenced based papers to make decisions. It’s sort of the difference between a village witch doctor and a modern medical professional.
 
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Gold Dragon

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The man may be a criminal.

What about the science of what he states in this video ? Is it good or bad science ? My personal education I am sure is way below yours and BB's.

Is the science of what he says good or bad?
Bad definitely ignore.

If good science was 10 and bad science was 0, the “science” on that video was negative 10.

Conspiracy theorists use the same tropes over and over again because it is big business for them. There is a huge market of unsuspecting folks they are making money of by playing on their fears. Don’t give them your time or your money
 

Gold Dragon

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With regard to risks of the covid19 vaccines, they are pretty similar to other vaccines. Here is the Australian government website listing those risks with more details.

Are COVID-19 vaccines safe?

The main risk that is > 50% of patients is a local reaction of pain and swelling at the site of the injection. May last more than a day in more severe cases.

I say to my patients that all vaccines activate your immune system which is the purpose of vaccines. And some folks (I would estimate between 10-25%) experience a mild cold-like illness for a few days after. Fever, aches, runny nose, headaches, those sorts of symptoms.

I also mention for all vaccines the very rare risk (I estimate less than 1 in a million) of severe allergic reaction. We ask folks to stay in our office for 15 minutes because if that were to happen we could treat them right away and almost all anaphylaxis occurs within that time frame.

With regard to the rare clotting risk associated with the Astra Zeneca and J&J vaccines (I estimate that to be around 1 in 250,000 but probably less) it seems to occur more in young females under the age of 50 and appears to be an autoimmune reaction and occurs within the first 3 weeks of the vaccine. In australia we only give Astra Zeneca to over 50s at the moment. Considering the risk of severe life threatening clotting with covid19 is much higher, countries with a lot of covid19 should absolutely still use the Astra Zeneca vaccine, especially if they don’t have other options. In Australia where we don’t have any covid19 at the moment, it is understandable to be more cautious.

For super rare immune reactions like Guillian Barre syndrome, there has been no data to suggest the rate of those vaccinated is any higher than the general population which is at risk of developing GBS through everyday colds and gastro infections.
 
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percho

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They didn't serve milk stout so that's no good.
I chose the vaccine because it beats getting sick or dying from Covid. If you would rather get Covid, that's your choice.
Both of us know we are held in God's hand and have no fear of death so that's not a factor. However, now that I have the vaccine, I can go back into nursing homes and get back to prison ministry that has been shutdown for 14 months. I will gladly take the shot if it provides greater opportunity to minister.

Speaking of opportunity, no telling where or how God may send one next!

By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
 

percho

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With regard to risks of the covid19 vaccines, they are pretty similar to other vaccines. Here is the Australian government website listing those risks with more details.

Are COVID-19 vaccines safe?

The main risk that is > 50% of patients is a local reaction of pain and swelling at the site of the injection. May last more than a day in more severe cases.

I say to my patients that all vaccines activate your immune system which is the purpose of vaccines. And some folks (I would estimate between 10-25%) experience a mild cold-like illness for a few days after. Fever, aches, runny nose, headaches, those sorts of symptoms.

I also mention for all vaccines the very rare risk (I estimate less than 1 in a million) of severe allergic reaction. We ask folks to stay in our office for 15 minutes because if that were to happen we could treat them right away and almost all anaphylaxis occurs within that time frame.

With regard to the rare clotting risk associated with the Astra Zeneca and J&J vaccines (I estimate that to be around 1 in 250,000 but probably less) it seems to occur more in young females under the age of 50 and appears to be an autoimmune reaction and occurs within the first 3 weeks of the vaccine. In australia we only give Astra Zeneca to over 50s at the moment. Considering the risk of severe life threatening clotting with covid19 is much higher, countries with a lot of covid19 should absolutely still use the Astra Zeneca vaccine, especially if they don’t have other options. In Australia where we don’t have any covid19 at the moment, it is understandable to be more cautious.

For super rare immune reactions like Guillian Barre syndrome, there has been no data to suggest the rate of those vaccinated is any higher than the general population which is at risk of developing GBS through everyday colds and gastro infections.

Is the VARS site worth anything for tracking C 19 vaccine problems? Have you, as a Doctor, reported any to VARS?
 
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