Here's you chance Protestants

[Adonia]

Today is Ash Wednesday, the day the Church binds us to the 40 days of Jesus's sojourn in the desert where He fasted and prayed prior to His great sacrifice for all. You too can emulate Him by likewise fasting this day, offering up this minor sacrifice to God in appreciation for what Jesus Christ His son went through for us.

 

[BobRyan]

Today is Ash Wednesday, the day the Church binds us to the 40 days of Jesus's sojourn in the desert where He fasted and prayed prior to His great sacrifice for all. You too can emulate Him by likewise fasting this day, offering up this minor sacrifice to God in appreciation for what Jesus Christ His son went through for us.

What is this a 'Chance" for??

I think both sides agree that Christ fasted from food and water for 40 days in the wilderness according to the Gospels right?

 

[Adonia]

What is this a 'Chance" for??

I think both sides agree that Christ fasted from food and water for 40 days in the wilderness according to the Gospels right?

Here's a chance, or the perfect time if you wish, to fast as Jesus did when he went into the desert. I think it is or would be a good practice at this particular time of the year for those who follow Jesus, no?

 

[JonShaff]

Today is Ash Wednesday, the day the Church binds us to the 40 days of Jesus's sojourn in the desert where He fasted and prayed prior to His great sacrifice for all. You too can emulate Him by likewise fasting this day, offering up this minor sacrifice to God in appreciation for what Jesus Christ His son went through for us.

My Worship towards My God and Savior King Jesus is everyday. I do not need to "offer up a minor sacrifice to God", Christ Paid it all. God is Pleased with obedience rooted in Faith--Without Faith you cannot please God.

I praise God for post's like yours that reminds me of the slavish, devilish system that God brought me out of--the Roman catholic cult.

 

[Adonia]

My Worship towards My God and Savior King Jesus is everyday. I do not need to "offer up a minor sacrifice to God", Christ Paid it all. God is Pleased with obedience rooted in Faith--Without Faith you cannot please God.

I praise God for post's like yours that reminds me of the slavish, devilish system that God brought me out of--the Roman catholic cult.

Good grief, what is devilish about following the Scriptures?

So your new biblical teachers tell you to discount all the times the Scriptures mentions fasting? It is not done as something we have to do for salvation, but something we choose to do for personal spiritual growth.

When it is done, it is always done for the glory of God, to remove ourselves just a bit from the everyday things of this world. We are to meditate on Gods word, to emulate the Savior as we can. Fasting is in the Scriptures and it is a profitable thing to engage in, no?

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

Howhere in the scriptures are we commanded to fast during a certain period of time of the year as a ritual.

 

[JonShaff]

Good grief, what is devilish about following the Scriptures?

So your new biblical teachers tell you to discount all the times the Scriptures mentions fasting? It is not done as something we have to do for salvation, but something we choose to do for personal spiritual growth.

When it is done, it is always done for the glory of God, to remove ourselves just a bit from the everyday things of this world. We are to meditate on Gods word, to emulate the Savior as we can. Fasting is in the Scriptures and it is a profitable thing to engage in, no?

Where did i say i do not fast? Reread my post; What do you disagree with?

 

[Adonia]

My Worship towards My God and Savior King Jesus is everyday. I do not need to "offer up a minor sacrifice to God", Christ Paid it all.

You would do well to meditate on the following Scriptures

1.“Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship” (Romans 12:1).

2.“And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased” (Hebrews 13:16).

According to you, no sacrifices on our part is wanted, so please explain the discrepancy between what you said and what the Scriptures say.

 

[Adonia]

Where did i say i do not fast? Reread my post; What do you disagree with?

I never said we need to do things for salvation. Please re-read my post about fasting.

 

[JonShaff]

You would do well to meditate on the following Scriptures

1.“Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship” (Romans 12:1).

2.“And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased” (Hebrews 13:16).

According to you, no sacrifices on our part is wanted, so please explain the discrepancy between what you said and what the Scriptures say.

You don't get it.


We don't fast as a way to "show appreciation."

 

[Adonia]

Howhere in the scriptures are we commanded to fast during a certain period of time of the year as a ritual.

I see, so if the Scriptures does not specifically say something, we cannot do it? Look, Jesus established a church here on earth with authority. If the Bishop's determine that we should do something at a certain period of time of the year to enhance our spiritual walk with Christ then so be it. Nothing evil is going on here, only praise and recognition.

The fact is, Jesus did indeed spend 40 days in the desert fasting and praying so it is proper for us to remember those days and seek to emulate what he did. Good heavers, do you not recognize any of the momentous moments in His life and recognize them at certain times of the year like Christmas, Good Friday, or Easter?

As for rituals, Jesus Himself kept to just about all the Jewish rituals. He was circumcised, attended the synagogue or Temple regularly, kept all the Jewish holidays and celebrations, and was buried in the Jewish manner. There is nothing wrong with rituals either as evidenced by the life of Jesus.

 

[Adonia]

You don't get it.


We don't fast as a way to "show appreciation."

Take that up with the evangelist St. Paul. No, YOU don't get it.

 

[Revmitchell]

I see, so if the Scriptures does not specifically say something, we cannot do it? Look, Jesus established a church here on earth with authority. If the Bishop's determine that we should do something at a certain period of time of the year to enhance our spiritual walk with Christ then so be it. Nothing evil is going on here, only praise and recognition.

The fact is, Jesus did indeed spend 40 days in the desert fasting and praying so it is proper for us to remember those days and seek to emulate what he did. Good heavers, do you not recognize any of the momentous moments in His life and recognize them at certain times of the year like Christmas, Good Friday, or Easter?

As for rituals, Jesus Himself kept to just about all the Jewish rituals. He was circumcised, attended the synagogue or Temple regularly, kept all the Jewish holidays and celebrations, and was buried in the Jewish manner. There is nothing wrong with rituals either as evidenced by the life of Jesus.

So the problem is that this set time of fasting is arbitrary. What is not considered is why Jesus did it. You all want to emulate what he did divorced from why He did it. That is a problem. Can you tell us all why Jesus engaged in this fasting and what benefit came of it? If you cannot then your call to fast as Jesus did is shallow and ineffective. If you can then we need to understand, based on your answer, how to properly apply what Jesus did to our lives.

 

[Reformed]

I do not observe papist inventions that have no scriptural warrant.

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[JonShaff]

Good grief, what is devilish about following the Scriptures?

Where did i say that?

I said the Roman catholic cult is slavish and devilish.

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

I see, so if the Scriptures does not specifically say something, we cannot do it? Look, Jesus established a church here on earth with authority. If the Bishop's determine that we should do something at a certain period of time of the year to enhance our spiritual walk with Christ then so be it. Nothing evil is going on here, only praise and recognition.

The fact is, Jesus did indeed spend 40 days in the desert fasting and praying so it is proper for us to remember those days and seek to emulate what he did. Good heavers, do you not recognize any of the momentous moments in His life and recognize them at certain times of the year like Christmas, Good Friday, or Easter?

As for rituals, Jesus Himself kept to just about all the Jewish rituals. He was circumcised, attended the synagogue or Temple regularly, kept all the Jewish holidays and celebrations, and was buried in the Jewish manner. There is nothing wrong with rituals either as evidenced by the life of Jesus.

Actually Jesus and his disciples were criticized by the Pharisees for not washing their hands according to the man made traditions of the elders.

Which ironically is what you are doing to believe who don’t follow the false extra biblical traditions of Rome.

 

[JonShaff]

I see, so if the Scriptures does not specifically say something, we cannot do it? Look, Jesus established a church here on earth with authority. If the Bishop's determine that we should do something at a certain period of time of the year to enhance our spiritual walk with Christ then so be it. Nothing evil is going on here, only praise and recognition.

The fact is, Jesus did indeed spend 40 days in the desert fasting and praying so it is proper for us to remember those days and seek to emulate what he did. Good heavers, do you not recognize any of the momentous moments in His life and recognize them at certain times of the year like Christmas, Good Friday, or Easter?

As for rituals, Jesus Himself kept to just about all the Jewish rituals. He was circumcised, attended the synagogue or Temple regularly, kept all the Jewish holidays and celebrations, and was buried in the Jewish manner. There is nothing wrong with rituals either as evidenced by the life of Jesus.

Oh dear friend, i can see myself behind these words. Please, i beg you, come out of Rome...Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ Alone for forgiveness of our sin! God raised the Lord Jesus from the dead so that you can know Him! We can only know the Father through His Son Jesus Christ! Run from Rome, and Run to Christ!

 

[One Baptism]

Today is Ash Wednesday, the day the [Roman Catholic] [c]hurch binds us to the 40 days of Jesus's sojourn in the desert where He fasted and prayed prior to His great sacrifice for all. You too can emulate Him by likewise fasting this day, offering up this minor sacrifice to God in appreciation for what Jesus Christ His son went through for us.

What heavy bindings, wearisome burdens you carry. If you come to Christ Jesus, who would never bind something like that upon anyone, He will give you a different yoke, one of "light" [double entendre].

Something for you, and all 'Roman Catholics, etc' to remember:

“Remember man that thou art dust and unto dust thou shalt return.” [Roman Catholic Online Encyclopedia; Ash Wednesday] - CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Ash Wednesday​

Just think, that when this takes place upon you, and you wear [as I used to] the ashes of dead palms upon your face [a religion of death], those Seventh-day Adventists were right about what happens to a person when they die. You, being dust, return to dust ...

Jesus Christ fasted in the fallen sinful flesh of man-kind for those 40 days and nights [overcoming where fleshly Israel failed in the desert], that man-kind may have the victory over every besetting sin, which is transgression of the Ten Commandments [Exodus 20:1-17; John 14:15; Exodus 20:6; Revelation 12:17, 14:12, etc].

Roman Catholicism, in its very teachings, teach to break/transgress the 4th Commandment [Exodus 20:8-11 KJB], the holy 7th day the Sabbath of the LORD thy God, among others. All such 'fasting' which is not a turning away from sin [1 John 3:4 KJB] is a mockery to God. You have chosen the way of fallen man, rather than the way of God:

Isaiah 58:4 KJB - Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high.

Isaiah 58:5 KJB - Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD?​

Here is God's chosen method:

Isaiah 58:6 KJB - Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?

Isaiah 58:7 KJB - Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?

Isaiah 58:8 KJB - Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.

Isaiah 58:9 KJB - Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;

Isaiah 58:10 KJB - And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday:

Isaiah 58:11 KJB - And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.

Isaiah 58:12 KJB - And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

Isaiah 58:13 KJB - If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

Isaiah 58:14 KJB - Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
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Connect with Job 29:1-25; Revelation 14:6-12 KJB, etc.

Even now, this thread promotes "strife and debate". It promotes the self, 'look at what I do', etc. "Matthew 23:5 KJB - But all their works they do for to be seen of men: ..."; You have your reward already.

 

[BobRyan]

Here's a chance, or the perfect time if you wish, to fast as Jesus did when he went into the desert. I think it is or would be a good practice at this particular time of the year for those who follow Jesus, no?

He fasted from food and water...

As I understand it some folks do a "symbolic fast" -- for these 40 days

We probably both know that Jesus did not go into the desert 40 days before Passover.

Messianic Jews hold a Seder service at Passover
Some folks do some sort of fast for 40 days.

I don't condemn either - I think they both have benefit.

I already don't eat meat these 40 days (Which includes fish of course)

 

[BobRyan]

Actually Jesus and his disciples were criticized by the Pharisees for not washing their hands according to the man made traditions of the elders.

Which ironically is what you are doing to believe who don’t follow the false extra biblical traditions of Rome.

Mark 7
The Pharisees and some of the scribes gathered around Him when they had come from Jerusalem, 2 and had seen that some of His disciples were eating their bread with impure hands, that is, unwashed. 3 (For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they carefully wash their hands, thus observing the traditions of the elders; 4 and when they come from the market place, they do not eat unless they cleanse themselves; and there are many other things which they have received in order to observe, such as the washing of cups and pitchers and copper pots.) 5 The Pharisees and the scribes *asked Him, “Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat their bread with impure hands?” 6 And He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:


‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
7 ‘But in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’

8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”

9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a man says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is to say, given to God),’ 12 you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”

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Voluntary symbolic fasting would not seem to violate God's commandments in my opinion.

Same with a Christian Seder service pointing to the Gospel in the symbols of the Passover.