Honest Question: Why do we place a stigma on certain Sins?

[Aaron]

I ask this because I keep reading off the cuff comments about a particular sin for which we don't create topics. The latest comment referred to people as queers and termed their lifestyle as sickening.

I understand why people say it.

But

Why don't we say that about every sinful lifestyle?
Why don't we say that about the folks who refuse to pray for the President and other leaders?
Why don't we say that about the folks popping prescribed pills everyday?
Why don't we say that about the folks who don't share the Gospel?

Why do we constantly insist on denigrating folks because of their attempt to deal with their brokenness while ignoring the heinousness of the sins we commit to deal with our own?

Just some thoughts.

I'll answer when I see a defense of Hitler in either your or CBT's posts.

Hypocrites.

 

[Bro. James]

Paul, the Apostle, had some plain, pointed observations regarding sin: 'All have sinned and come short of the glory of God; there are none righteous not one.' 'Whatsoever is not of Faith is sin'.

Rumor and malicious gossip has polluted many churches, along with GAOTU and racism. Many have had their candlesticks removed.

We need to spend more time in the confessional--with Jehovah.

Even so, come Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I ask this because I keep reading off the cuff comments about a particular sin for which we don't create topics. The latest comment referred to people as queers and termed their lifestyle as sickening.

.

You find the term queer offensive do you? Do you feel that is the normal state of human condition? Can two gender males or two gender females get together & create a baby? Oh and do you feel their sexual proclivities as normal? Please advise

 

[Zaac]

Zaac, aren't you being as judgemental as you are accusing others of being?

Oldtimer, I've never had a problem with righteous judgment. It's BIBLICAL. It's the unrighteous judgment that we mete out that I take issue with.

Zaac, aren't you playing word games with "lifestyles"?

No. On the contrary. It seems that the ones pointing to a homosexual lifestyle being sinful and not also pointing to heterosexual lifestyles being sinful would be the ones playing word games.

I keep things simple because God keeps them simple. Lifestyles aren't sinful. People are. Jesus didn't go to the cross over a lifestyle. He went for PEOPLE.

Would your replies be worded, as they are, if the main topic of conversation was about the perverted "lifestyle" of peodifles who prey on little children?

Yep, because I place pedophiles in that group of folks who have been stigmatized. Right and wrong don't change just because children are involved. Our societal opinions seem to think so, but it doesn't.

Pedophiles, homosexuals, drug addicts ,etc,, have all chosen something to try to deal with their spiritual brokenness. And every one of us in our lives have done the same.

But you don't show people the hope that is Christ for finally defeating those false answers by denigrating them. You show them "hey I had something to that I thought was the answer. But one day, someone introduced me to Jesus and He healed the brokenness that I was just trying to cope with and survive by partaking in the homosexual acts, pornography, drugs, etc.

Our mindset seems to have been schewed into the societal response when we should be responding like Christ. How difficult is it for us to look at how lepers were treated in the Bible and how we treat certain people today?

The point that you are continuing to ignore is that a true Christian is repentent and when they fail they are ridden with guilt. A true Christian, even with their failures, does reflect God's grace in their lives. Scriptures tell us over and over again, you will know them by their fruit.

I haven't ignored any such point. The point that the masses seem to keep ignoring in lieu of the holier than thou professions for what a Christian should be is that a lot of times you're not dealing with Christians.

you're dealing with folks who don't know Christ who have chosen these things to deal with some sort of brokenness in their lives. And our response too many times to THESE is that your sin is sickening?God help us if He had responded to us in that manner of snatching us off that cliff to destruction before we went over the edge.

Why do you single out "Baptists"? What is your point in trying to sterotype ALL Baptists, as if you are the only one who understands the "proper way" to witness and minister to the lost?

Oh stop. It's a BAPTIST board. Do you want me to single out the Methodists? Stick whatever denomination in there that you choose.:laugh:

In closing, please let me ask you one more question. Would you vote to approve membership in your church of a gay couple who state they WILL continue to live together in a marital relationship? Yes or no, please.

Personally I would not. But do you and your church practice Biblical discipline? Have you Biblically dealt with the adulterers, the out-of-wedlock pregnancies, fornicators, etc,?

 

[Zaac]

I'll answer when I see a defense of Hitler in either your or CBT's posts.

Hypocrites.

Now you know that I don't care if you or anyone else chooses to not answer.:laugh: Lots of folks feel as though doing right is conditioned upon someone else doing something first.

 

[Revmitchell]

No. On the contrary. It seems that the ones pointing to a homosexual lifestyle being sinful and not also pointing to heterosexual lifestyles being sinful would be the ones playing word games.

That is pure baloney

 

[Zaac]

You find the term queer offensive do you? Do you feel that is the normal state of human condition?

The normal state of the human condition is the Garden so we're all out of that normal state.

Can two gender males or two gender females get together & create a baby? Oh and do you feel their sexual proclivities as normal? Please advise

Do you refer to heterosexual fornicators as queer? Do you refer to their sexual proclivities as queer?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

The normal state of the human condition is the Garden so we're all out of that normal state.



Do you refer to heterosexual fornicators as queer? Do you refer to their sexual proclivities as queer?

You deflected my question. Wont bother with you any more. Good day.

 

[Zaac]

You deflected my question. Wont bother with you any more. Good day.

No skin off my brow. You didn't get the answer you wanted. Be blessed.:flower:.

 

[Zaac]

That is pure baloney

Guess you didn't get the answer you wanted either.

 

[Yeshua1]

The normal state of the human condition is the Garden so we're all out of that normal state.



Do you refer to heterosexual fornicators as queer? Do you refer to their sexual proclivities as queer?

Do you agree with paul and God that lifestyle is offensive and sinful to God?

 

[Zaac]

Do you agree with paul and God that lifestyle is offensive and sinful to God?

Do you have a specific Scripture which you are referencing Paul saying that the lifestyle is offensive and sinful to God?

 

[Aaron]

Now you know that I don't care if you or anyone else chooses to not answer.:laugh: Lots of folks feel as though doing right is conditioned upon someone else doing something first.

Like I said: Hypocrite.

Despite your magnanimous view of yourself, you don't hold all sins equal. Neither does God's law.

 

[Yeshua1]

Do you have a specific Scripture which you are referencing Paul saying that the lifestyle is offensive and sinful to God?

26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is [r]unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in [t]their own persons the due penalty of their error.

Romans 1 pretty clear on how God views that lifestyle!

 

[Zaac]

Like I said: Hypocrite.

Despite your magnanimous view of yourself, you don't hold all sins equal. Neither does God's law.

Like I said, I don't care if you choose to not answer.:thumbs:

 

[Zaac]

26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is [r]unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in [t]their own persons the due penalty of their error.

Romans 1 pretty clear on how God views that lifestyle!

What does that Scripture have to do with a lifestyle? It speaks to people choosing to commit acts of sin. Why are those acts of sin worthy of deeming a sinful lifestyle anymore than the gluttonous habits of Baptist deems them to be living a sinful lifestyle?

 

[Yeshua1]

What does that Scripture have to do with a lifestyle? It speaks to people choosing to commit acts of sin. Why are those acts of sin worthy of deeming a sinful lifestyle anymore than the gluttonous habits of Baptist deems them to be living a sinful lifestyle?

because God states that sexual sins by their very nature are especially bad!

Do you agree with God that Homosexual living is NOT for Christians, and that it is sinful behaviour?

 

[Aaron]

Like I said, I don't care if you choose to not answer.:thumbs:

More like you'd prefer I don't answer. You want to show someone your posts and say, "See? I'm fair-minded."

Your premise, however, demands that you show that same courtesy to a pedophile or a rapist.

You need a post asking why we are more comfortable condemning Ted Bundy than the one taking dessert seconds.

Hypocrite.

 

[saturneptune]

you don't hold all sins equal. Neither does God's law.

What is the end result of an unforgiven sin? Eternity in the Lake of Fire. So would you please explain how God's law has a different rating system on sin? Do those who have unforgiven lesser sins go to a nicer and more gentle hell?

Man's opinion of which sin is worse than others does not translate into a sliding scale of sin in God's eyes. Christ makes it quite clear, in Matthew, that lusting is as bad as the physical act, and hate towards someone in their heart is just as bad as murder.

We harp on drinking, dancing, gambling, etc, and let gossip run rampant.

How does bringing all sin to light give a pass to the sin of homosexuality? The comparison has no merit.

 

[Zaac]

because God states that sexual sins by their very nature are especially bad!

So that's all sexual sin and not a lifestyle.

Do you agree with God that Homosexual living is NOT for Christians, and that it is sinful behaviour?

Where does God speak to homosexual living? Does He also speak to heterosexual living?

Scripture is very clear. God speaks to performing homosexual ACTS as sinful. He has never said anything in His word about somebody's lifestyle being sinful.

So no I don't agree with that because THAT is not what God says in Scripture.