How Calvin helped create Unitarianism

How educated does a man have to be to know that
betraying a man and participating in his torture and murder is a heinous crime? (Acts 1:25)

Seems to me the Ten Commandments is more than enough.

Herod had hundreds of innocent babies sacrificed to his megalomania.

According to you, thats no problem, because -
"..that is what was done in those days."

Seems to me if torture and murder was an atrocity in Jesus' day,
its an atrocity now.

If Paul, the Apostles, and even the Jewish people were shocked and horrified
by the news of Jesus' torture and death, (Acts 2:37!), then we should be now also.


God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.

 

Sure: NRSV is not alone on the list, and it must be noted that the RSV and NRSV are closely related, and were both taken over by the apostate Metzger:

Deuteronomy 23:17 CHANGE "sodomite" TO "shrine prostitute OR cult prostitute" ("There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.") This change also occurs in 1 Kings 14:24, 1 Kings 15:12, 1 Kings 22:46 and 2 Kings 23:7. NIV, NASB, RSV
Deuteronomy 32:22 CHANGE"lowest hell" TO "realm of death (et. al)" ("For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.") NIV, NASV, NRSV, LB, NC

Daniel 3:25 CHANGE "the Son of God" TO "a son of the gods" ("He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.") NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV, LB, NC

Daniel 7:10 REMOVE "judgment was set" NIV, NASV, NRSV, LB, NC

Psalms 8:5 CHANGE "the angels" TO "the heavenly beings (et. al)" ("For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.") NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV, LB, NC

Micah 5:2 CHANGE "everlasting" TO "ancient times or ancient days (et. al.)" (""But thou, Beth-lehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from old, from everlasting.")
Contradicts Psalm 90:2 "...from everlasting to everlasting thou art God..." NIV, RSV, NRSV, LB, NC

Zechariah 12:10 CHANGE "his only son" TO "an only child" ("And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.") NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV, LB, NC

Psalms 9:17 REMOVE "turned into hell" ("The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.") NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV, LB, NC

Psalms 12:7
CHANGE "thou shalt preserve them" TO "you will keep us safe and protect us"(et. al) ("Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.)
NOTE: Changes the emphasis of what is preserved in verse 6: "The words of the LORD..."
NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV, LB, NC

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However, some verses in the Old Testament are used in the New Testament as prophecy for Jesus being the Messiah.

For example, in the KJV, Isaiah 7:14 is translated: "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." However, in order to be more inclusive, the NRSV replaced the word "virgin" with the phrase "young woman." This causes a problem, as one of the prophecies that Jesus fulfilled in the New Testament was being born of a virgin.


Another example is Matthew 2:2. In the KJV, the wise men came to the stable "to worship him," which is in accordance with the prophecy in Psalm 72:10, 15. However, the NRSV translation says the wise men would "pay homage" to the Christ, a connotation that is strikingly different than what was prophesied.

Read more: Problem Verses in the NRSV | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_7316938_problem-verses-nrsv.html#ixzz1QPO1UFCH

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D.J. Philips Review gives some more background and examples:

 

L.M. Vance also has a long article on the issues with the NRSV (and ESV):

Arthur Farstad (Majority Text) is also worthy of consultation:

 

How to Destroy Messianic Prophecies - Three examples:
is an instructive article on the issues and the shenanegans of various translations including the NRSV.

The problems with the NRSV have also been discussed in the Preaching Forum here.

Also in the Baptist Board archives:
"The RSV suffers from a strong liberal bias that manifests itself in
downplaying messianic prophecies in the OT and translating passages in the NT
in a way that distances the NT from the theology of the councils and church fathers."

 

Wrong. It was an execution. AND it was a murder.

You don't burn people alive at the stake for not agreeing with you. (Luke 6:31)

Any state that executes a man because he wrote a book contradicting the 'Trinity'
is an insane police-state in the control of insane maniacs,
and this cannot in any way be sluffed off as a "state execution" as if that excused it, or condoned it.

If you condone an illegitimate 'state' burning a man alive,
then you cannot be a Christian in any sense of the word,
let alone a person with their head screwed on straight.

Who's Johnathan Wright? Nobody.
If I'm wrong in my 'speculation', which was shared by most of Europe, so what?
I'm not an insane murderer who burns people alive.
I'm just a person with a mistaken opinion.

My worst sin then would be slandering a dead corpse.

Your worst sin would be condoning insane torture
and murder of people who have done nothing to deserve any such thing.

Give us a link to the debate, and I'll be glad to discern for myself
who was more honest and historically accurate, or a better logician.
I couldn't care less who won the debate.
Debating is not an honest skill.
Rhetoric is for liars.

Me too.

I believe the gospel is for the poor, the ignorant, the disenfranchised, the marginalized, the lost, the abandoned, the unemployed, and repentent sinners,
...not for intelligencia, academics, rich people, rulers, or religious leaders. Those people are all going to hell.

If we had to read and believe Calvin to be saved, not even Calvin would be saved.
But I have someone more intelligent to read and believe: Jesus the Christ.
Calvin who?


If Wright is a simpleton, he has a lot better chance of salvation
than someone who knowingly condones burning a man alive, and excusing it as a "state execution".

Hitler and Stalin ordered state executions too.

peace
Nazaroo

 

Yes. Its called freedom of speech,
to speak my beliefs and opinions,
and let the free market of ideas reign.
May the best statement win.

That sure beats every other alternative,
like censorship and kangaroo court trials that burn innocent people alive....

How ironic.
Someone who apparently thinks Calvin's works have value,
is recommending avoiding them.
That doesn't sound like love to me.

But hey, I'll bet just as many Christians went to heaven
BEFORE Calvin wrote his endless books, as after.
So how important can Calvin be, if he's not in the Bible,
and he wrote 1,600 years after Jesus spoke and taught?
Was God out playing golf, and suddenly remembered,
"Oh, I better get someone like Calvin to clear up My doctrine."

 

But he didn't oppose his death sentence.

And his opposition was for show.
He spent weeks trying to get Servetus to recant,
so Calvin wouldn't be guilty of betraying him to torture and death.
Calvin was as big a cowardly betrayer as Servetus was a clown.