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How did you first come to your pre-trib rapture view?

37818

37818

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How did you first come to your pre-trib rapture view?


It was from the beginning what I was taught pre-trib. It was not until I studied the question, I discovered the Scripture taught a post trib rapture.
 
kyredneck

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Before I knew better back in my day, Hal Lindsey peddled this sensationalism. He fleeced buku filthy lucre from the sheep with it and other fairy tales.
 
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tyndale1946

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kyredneck said:
Before I knew better back in my day, Hal Lindsey peddled this sensationalism. He fleeced buku filthy lucre from the sheep with it and other fairy tales.
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I guess I was one of the lucky ones, because our church never taught it, I only heard it when I got here... I only heard the resurrection and the only rapture I ever heard was when Saul/Paul was caught up into the third heaven... I go with Biblical History not future fantasy... I know what's going to happen, the LORD, is going to return again and resurrect us and take his children to heavens glory... Brother Glen:)
 
Silverhair

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About the only thing that we were told in church as I was growing up was that the wrath of God was meant for sinners. When they did mention the book of Revelation it was only to say it was the time of Jacob's trouble, the tribulation or when Gods wrath would be poured out on the world.
So my conclusion was that since I was a Christian and we are not to see wrath then when 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 spoke about us being caught up with Christ that would have to be before the wrath to come. Thus pre-tribulation.

But I have to agree with Glen. I know what's going to happen, the LORD is going to return and call us home whether that is pre, mid or post is not a matter of great concern, well not to me anyway.
 
37818

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FYI my view is post-trib pre-wrath.
37818 said:
It was not until I studied the question, I discovered the Scripture taught a post trib rapture.
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The rapture is indeed prior to the wrath of God on the world. The tribulation Matthew 24:29 and the wrath of God Revelation 6:17 are two different events.
 
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AustinC

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I was born into it. Indoctrinated in it and had no idea that there was a different interpretation. Then...I started reading the Bible and understanding God's covenant with his children. I started looking at context and I couldn't justify a pre-trib rapture.
 
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tyndale1946

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Silverhair said:
About the only thing that we were told in church as I was growing up was that the wrath of God was meant for sinners. When they did mention the book of Revelation it was only to say it was the time of Jacob's trouble, the tribulation or when Gods wrath would be poured out on the world.
So my conclusion was that since I was a Christian and we are not to see wrath then when 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 spoke about us being caught up with Christ that would have to be before the wrath to come. Thus pre-tribulation.

But I have to agree with Glen. I know what's going to happen, the LORD is going to return and call us home whether that is pre, mid or post is not a matter of great concern, well not to me anyway.
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Yeah... My Dad was the same way... I asked my Dad one time, so what stance do you take on the mil doctrine?... He looked at me and said, son I'm the rarest of the mil believers there are... I'm a Panmil!... Dad, I said I never heard that one?... He said Panmil believers believe, that whatever is going to happen will happen according to how God wants it to happen and no man will change what will happen... And God is in complete control of the happening... Brother Glen:)
 
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tyndale1946 said:
Yeah... My Dad was the same way... I asked my Dad one time, so what stance do you take on the mil doctrine?... He looked at me and said, son I'm the rarest of the mil believers there are... I'm a Panmil!... Dad, I said I never heard that one?... He said Panmil believers believe, that whatever is going to happen will happen according to how God wants it to happen and no man will change what will happen... And God is in complete control of the happening... Brother Glen:)
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To clarify what is a Panmil believer?... It going to ALL pan out in the end!
 
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tyndale1946

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Silverhair said:
I think one has to be of a certain age before we fit into that group.
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I think you are because you said: is not a matter of great concern, well not to me anyway... Its not to me either... If its a concern to anyone are they afraid (said with tongue in cheek)... They will be "Left Behind!"... Brother Glen;)
 
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I was first taught it in church

I have since studied real hard and am non commited to one actual view (I think a few views have support for them)

Premil is my belief, I lean towards pre/mid trib. I find post trib to be the least supported.
 
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37818 said:
The rapture is indeed prior to the wrath of God on the world. The tribulation Matthew 24:29 and the wrath of God Revelation 6:17 are two different events.
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I disagree, The wrath of God, the time of Jacob's trouble and the "great" tribulation are the same event

the actual tribulation is the final 3.5 years.. Or the great tribulation, as Jesus put it, which occurs AFTER the AOD.

the question is. does the rapture occur before the 70th week. in the middle of that week. or at the end.
 
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kyredneck said:
Agree. Wrath for sinners, whether they be saints or devils.



Agree. Occurred first century A.D..
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how cold this be? WW1 and WW2 both made what happened in the first century look like a walk in the park.. It is supposed to be the greates tribulation (trouble) the world (Israel) had ever seen..
 
37818

37818

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Eternally Grateful said:
I disagree, The wrath of God, the time of Jacob's trouble and the "great" tribulation are the same event

the actual tribulation is the final 3.5 years.. Or the great tribulation, as Jesus put it, which occurs AFTER the AOD.

the question is. does the rapture occur before the 70th week. in the middle of that week. or at the end.
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I see three of the events. The tribulation, Matthew 24:29. The signs prior to the second appearing of Christ, Matthew 24:29, Revelation 6:12. Followed by His wrath, Revelation 6:17. [ 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 1 Thessalonians 5:9 ]
 
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37818 said:
I see three of the events. The tribulation, Matthew 24:29. The signs prior to the second appearing of Christ, Matthew 24:29, Revelation 6:12. Followed by His wrath, Revelation 6:17. [ 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 1 Thessalonians 5:9 ]
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I see the great tribulation./jacobs trouble and time of Gods wrath all starting in rev 4 and continuing until his return.
 
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