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How Do Fellow baptist regard Now Billy Graham?

Yeshua1

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Not that I know of, Moody didn't. Neither did Graham in his early years.

One can find fault with him on his views regarding the catholic church being a real Church of christ, with trying to accomadate the "big tent'm of Chrsitiandom to include charasmatics/catholics etc BUT

Did he ever waver in His beliefs that jesus was and is the Messiah, that ONLY thru Him alone one can receive forgiveness and eternal life?
 

Squire Robertsson

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Until his Schuler comments, no one I know of questioned his basic orthodoxy.
One can find fault with him on his views regarding the catholic church being a real Church of Christ, with trying to accommodate the "big tent'm of Christendom to include charismatics/Catholics etc BUT

Did he ever waver in His beliefs that Jesus was and is the Messiah, that ONLY thru Him alone one can receive forgiveness and eternal life?
 

Gregory Perry Sr.

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Might Be Helpful If.....

Until his Schuler comments, no one I know of questioned his basic orthodoxy.


Squire...It might be helpful if someone could locate and POST Dr. Graham's interview and comments with Dr. Schuller verbatim. One must be measured by what they actually say. I just don't have time to do the research at the moment today. I know that there have been serious questions about his orthodoxy that have arisen in his later years such as his views on a literal Hell and his views on Christ's exclusivity. Is it an apparent apostasy or is he just getting senile with age as many do? Either way it is sad to see.

Bro.Greg:saint:
 

Yeshua1

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Squire...It might be helpful if someone could locate and POST Dr. Graham's interview and comments with Dr. Schuller verbatim. One must be measured by what they actually say. I just don't have time to do the research at the moment today. I know that there have been serious questions about his orthodoxy that have arisen in his later years such as his views on a literal Hell and his views on Christ's exclusivity. Is it an apparent apostasy or is he just getting senile with age as many do? Either way it is sad to see.

Bro.Greg:saint:

Found this on www.deceptioninthechurch.com/monthly.htm

"Read these statements carefully. He was interviewed by Robert Schuller on May 31, 1997.

Schuller: Tell me, what do you think is the future of Christianity?

Graham: Well, Christianity and being a true believer-you know, I think there’s the Body of Christ. This comes from all the Christian groups around the world, outside the Christian groups. I think everybody that loves Christ or knows Christ, whether they’re conscious of it or not, they’re members of the Body of Christ. And I don’t think that we’re going to see great sweeping revival, that will turn the whole world to Christ at any time. I think James answered that, the Apostle James in the first council in Jerusalem, when he said that God’s purpose for this age is to call out a people for His name. And that’s what God is doing today, He’s calling people out of the world for His name, whether they come from the Muslim world, or the Buddhist world, or the Christian world or the non-believing world, they are members of the Body of Christ because they’ve been called by God. They may not even know the name of Jesus but they know in their hearts that they need something that they don’t have, and they turn to the only light that they have, and I think that they are saved and that they’re going to be with us in heaven.

Schuller: What, what I hear you saying that it’s possible for Jesus Christ to come into human hearts and soul and life, even if they’ve been born in darkness and have never had exposure to the Bible. Is that a correct interpretation of what you’re saying?



Graham: Yes, it is, because I believe that. I’ve met people in various parts of the world in tribal situations, that they have never seen a Bible or heard about a Bible, and never heard of Jesus, but they’ve believed in their hearts that there was a God, and they’ve tried to live a life that was quite apart from the surrounding community in which they lived. "

IF that is the quote, would say that Dr graham is basically trying to have those saved who have never heard of jesus, had a Gospel witness in their nation/tribe/land...

THAT has been debeated since early on in the Church, so is that really Aposty?

he seems to be saying jesus is still ONLY way to heaven, but defining who qualified broader than some would want, per the bible!

MORE troubling to me was the larry king interview, where he appeared to have Mormons and catholics all chrsitians, and undecided about other faiths and God!
 
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kyredneck

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Found this on www.deceptioninthechurch.com/monthly.htm

"Read these statements carefully. He was interviewed by Robert Schuller on May 31, 1997.

Schuller: Tell me, what do you think is the future of Christianity?

Graham: Well, Christianity and being a true believer-you know, I think there’s the Body of Christ. This comes from all the Christian groups around the world, outside the Christian groups. I think everybody that loves Christ or knows Christ, whether they’re conscious of it or not, they’re members of the Body of Christ. And I don’t think that we’re going to see great sweeping revival, that will turn the whole world to Christ at any time. I think James answered that, the Apostle James in the first council in Jerusalem, when he said that God’s purpose for this age is to call out a people for His name. And that’s what God is doing today, He’s calling people out of the world for His name, whether they come from the Muslim world, or the Buddhist world, or the Christian world or the non-believing world, they are members of the Body of Christ because they’ve been called by God. They may not even know the name of Jesus but they know in their hearts that they need something that they don’t have, and they turn to the only light that they have, and I think that they are saved and that they’re going to be with us in heaven.

Schuller: What, what I hear you saying that it’s possible for Jesus Christ to come into human hearts and soul and life, even if they’ve been born in darkness and have never had exposure to the Bible. Is that a correct interpretation of what you’re saying?

Graham: Yes, it is, because I believe that. I’ve met people in various parts of the world in tribal situations, that they have never seen a Bible or heard about a Bible, and never heard of Jesus, but they’ve believed in their hearts that there was a God, and they’ve tried to live a life that was quite apart from the surrounding community in which they lived."

Wow, he's speaking exactly as a 'hyper hardsheller'. Imagine that.

IF that is the quote, would say that Dr graham is basically trying to have those saved who have never heard of jesus, had a Gospel witness in their nation/tribe/land...

THAT has been debeated since early on in the Church, so is that really Aposty?

No, it's NOT apostasy. Unorthodox but not apostasy.

he seems to be saying jesus is still ONLY way to heaven,

Thank you; exactly as a 'hyper hardsheller'. It's Christ that died, He has the right to do with His own as He wills.

but defining who qualified broader than some would want, per the bible!

Many are the examples of direct/immediate regeneration in the scriptures, but the 'orthodox' evangelicals choose to either explain them away or to ignore them altogether.
 
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