How may of you have had a black person as a house guest?

[Nonsequitur]

My goodness, the turns this thread has taken. I've had all kinds of folks in my home from time to time. But, I'm still undecided about the liberal. Now that's a dangerous breed.

Welcome to....'As the Worm Turns.'

Tips for having a 'Liberal' in your home.
1) Hide all pets.
2) To lull them into a docile state, place broccoli 'florets' into a vase to give them a sense of 'decorum'.
3) Whenever you say something, no matter how insignificant, always state at the end, "Obama willing."
4) Whenever anyone says anything that rhymes with, or even sounds like 'Bush', spit on your own floor.
5) When a sex-crazed, crack smoking 4-time loser breaks down the front door and starts to assault the liberal women, (I told you he was on crack), tell them that you will respect their wishes, and that you will not use your personal defense weapon, (a .44 Magnum), on the poor society-oppressed soul, until he goes through their family and children first.
6) Send out more invitations to the Democractic headquarters.

 

[Nonsequitur]

Well, I certainly don't want to put words in your moths...

WELL....I hope NOT!
My moths have a hard enough time eating my suits as it is.

 

[annsni]

My fellow 'human beings'?
To answer your question, yes I do. (As far as a 'human being' can have 'Godly love', (since I am not God), and want all of my friends and family to share in the Grace of God. I want 'ALL' of these people to be there. Will they be? No....there are ones that we can do nothing about, even though we can pray for them, some will not come to Christ, and will not be with us.
Questions?

So we are not to share the Gospel? Do you have a verse for that?

 

[annsni]

Despite the incorrect teachings of the catholic church, one cannot pray or pay a way for a soul to enter Heaven.

And they will know that how? By a believer sharing the Gospel to them. When there is untruth, one needs to show them the truth. I've done that with my Catholic friends - have you?

 

[annsni]

I never said to not have a Christian love for your neighbors. If your testimony calls others to the true God MORE POWER TO YOU.
It is a loss when our fellow men/women do not come to God. But I would still rejoice on a single convert than worry about a 100 lost.
We do not save.
The belief in Christ does.
All we can do is tell the story.
Where do you think the people who are tossed into the lake of fire come from? Do you think we as Christians are responsible?

We will be held responsible if we had the opportunity to share the Gospel and we chose they weren't worthy.

 

[Twizzler]

- to want to see them saved and to mourn when they are not.

I'm no theologian, Ann... but I don't believe we are supposed to mourn the lost, but instead celebrate when one of the lost are saved. If we mourn the lost, we will mourn for our entire lives. Maybe I'm mis-understanding what you're trying to say here.

 

[Revmitchell]

I'm no theologian, Ann... but I don't believe we are supposed to mourn the lost,

How did you come to this conclusion?

 

[alatide]

Never, and never will have any idol worshipping, non-biblical rosary counting, non-biblical mary worshipping, non-biblical purgatory believing, non-biblical funny-hat wearing man who is supposed to be 'god on earth' to be worshipped, non-biblical do-what- the-the-church-says believing person in my house.
Got a problem with that?
Nor will I have an Islamic, Hindu, Buddist or other false god worshippers anywhere on my property.
So no.... I have never, and will never...entertain a person of false gods in my 'hoose'.
I guess you allow muslims to pray in your house in the name of 'diversity'.
As for me me and my house, I will serve the Lord.

You're certainly not following Jesus' example. Yes, I have a problem with that. More than that. YOU have a problem with that.

Mar 2:15 And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.
Mar 2:16 And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
Mar 2:17 When Jesus heard [it], he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

 

[Salty]

Back to the basic OP "How may of you have had a black person as a house guest?"

Does it make a difference as to the %.

I mean what if a person is only 1/8 black - would that count? How about 3/8?

 

[annsni]

I'm no theologian, Ann... but I don't believe we are supposed to mourn the lost, but instead celebrate when one of the lost are saved. If we mourn the lost, we will mourn for our entire lives. Maybe I'm mis-understanding what you're trying to say here.

So we are not to be sad that there will be those who are lost? Why would we desire to preach the Gospel if we are not broken for the lost? I DO mourn when those who I've spoken to about Jesus choose to not listen and it breaks my heart knowing that my own brother is going to hell. I don't see how a believer can feel anything but sorrow at the lost.

 

[SaggyWoman]

Politics???

 

[poncho]

14 pages? Where are the mods?

 

[Nonsequitur]

So we are not to share the Gospel? Do you have a verse for that?

Ma'am, maybe you did not read #118.

 

[Nonsequitur]

And they will know that how? By a believer sharing the Gospel to them. When there is untruth, one needs to show them the truth. I've done that with my Catholic friends - have you?

Ma'am, again, see #118. We are to tell the story.

 

[Nonsequitur]

We will be held responsible if we had the opportunity to share the Gospel and we chose they weren't worthy.

Ma'am, I never said anything about choosing who were not worthy. By their own choice, they are worthy or not. We cannot make that choice for them. If my poor skills on the computer made you think otherwise, I'm sorry.
But I do believe this, those that die without Christ, are doomed.
(And as always, I apoligize for the late reply, but I have been trying to get my hunting leases in order, and only have time to do this when I get home.)

 

[Nonsequitur]

You're certainly not following Jesus' example. Yes, I have a problem with that. More than that. YOU have a problem with that.

Mar 2:15 And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.
Mar 2:16 And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
Mar 2:17 When Jesus heard [it], he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

You are confusing me with Jesus. He can/could/will sit with anyone He chooses. But He asks us what light has to do with darkness. Am I willing to tell the lost about Jesus?.....YES....Do I, or should I hang out with them?....NO.
By the way, unless you have direct communication about what Jesus thinks I have a problem with....it's none of, or have any idea IF, I have a problem with it. Be sanctimonious on your own time, on your own computer, and with your own beliefs.
Cod brain.

 

[Nonsequitur]

So we are not to be sad that there will be those who are lost? Why would we desire to preach the Gospel if we are not broken for the lost? I DO mourn when those who I've spoken to about Jesus choose to not listen and it breaks my heart knowing that my own brother is going to hell. I don't see how a believer can feel anything but sorrow at the lost.

Don't get me wrong. I wish no one to be lost.
But I see nowhere in the Bible, when Jesus spoke, and some said He was a false prophet, or had a demon, that He ran down the hill after them after making a speech trying to change their mind.
They heard the Truth, and rejected it.

 

[annsni]

You are confusing me with Jesus. He can/could/will sit with anyone He chooses. But He asks us what light has to do with darkness. Am I willing to tell the lost about Jesus?.....YES....Do I, or should I hang out with them?....NO.
By the way, unless you have direct communication about what Jesus thinks I have a problem with....it's none of, or have any idea IF, I have a problem with it. Be sanctimonious on your own time, on your own computer, and with your own beliefs.
Cod brain.

Cod brain? Did you seriously call me a name? What kind of believer are you??

But back to the topic at hand. Let's look at God's Word and not yours:

1 Corinthians 10:27 "If one of the unbelievers invites you to dinner and you are disposed to go, eat whatever is set before you without raising any question on the ground of conscience. "

So we are to eat dinner with unbelievers if we're invited.

1 Corinthians 5:9-10 "I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. "

Paul shows it clearly here that we're not to disassociate from the immoral of the world because then we'd have to leave the world.

We have had many people in our home - and many unbelievers. We've housed them, helped them, counseled them and helped all of them learn about Jesus Christ - leading to their salvation in many of the cases. I will never be hostile to an unbeliever because I'm a child of the King - a King who was never hostile to the unbeliever. I would never be able to have tea with my neighbor, getting into her life enough for her to see Jesus in our home and making her notice Him. I would never have sat in the other room as my husband led a dear brother to Christ in our living room after a particular difficult time in his life that brought him to his knees. I'd never be able to have my brother over for us to continue to give him the Gospel so that, if it's God's will, he will someday not just be my earthly brother but a brother by Spirit.

I don't go and do all of the things that unbelievers do to "win" them to Christ but I will most certainly give my life to spread the Gospel. I follow Jesus' example of ministering to the lost since He is my Teacher. I will continue to have them in my home to present the Gospel and pray for them that God would open their hearts - and He's done so. It's a privilege to be able to be a part of that.

 

[Nonsequitur]

Cod brain? Did you seriously call me a name? What kind of believer are you?? (#1. Maybe it is late and you mistook your name for Alitide. Please read again. #2 What kind of believer am I? A true one. So what is the problem?

But back to the topic at hand. Let's look at God's Word and not yours:

1 Corinthians 10:27 "If one of the unbelievers invites you to dinner and you are disposed to go, eat whatever is set before you without raising any question on the ground of conscience. "(Uh...yeah, when you are going to witness to them. But since this was something for the people of Christ to try to witness to them, and had to do with meat offered to idols, why do you still think that I said something bad to you? Did you not read #118? And the 'cod' thing had nothing to do with you, unless you just want it to be.)

So we are to eat dinner with unbelievers if we're invited. (No kidding. Guess you never read anything before this. Try reading about where I said we are to share the Gospel. It's totally different than hanging around with them. I don't understand why you don't go back and read what I wrote instead of trying to continue this. I will be as plain as I can. What 'little' you read from my replies you have not understood.

1 Corinthians 5:9-10 "I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. "(This was to, as you are talking about, teaching the Word of God to others.)

Paul shows it clearly here that we're not to disassociate from the immoral of the world because then we'd have to leave the world. (No. It says that these people are just as worthy of salvation, and that these people are 'invited' to accept Christ just as all are.Have to leave the world? You mean John 8:23-26?)

We have had many people in our home - and many unbelievers. We've housed them, helped them, counseled them and helped all of them learn about Jesus Christ - leading to their salvation in many of the cases.(More power to you. Where in any of my posts have I been against that......Oh....I know,....my not hanging around people who reject the Word, not only in deed but by actually hearing it and saying no, AFTER hearing it. I will never be hostile (You think I'm hostile because I will not allow unbelievers in my home?)to an unbeliever because I'm a child of the King - a King who was never hostile to the unbeliever. I would never be able to have tea with my neighbor, getting into her life enough for her to see Jesus in our home and making her notice Him. I would never have sat in the other room as my husband led a dear brother to Christ in our living room after a particular difficult time in his life that brought him to his knees. I'd never be able to have my brother over for us to continue to give him the Gospel so that, if it's God's will, he will someday not just be my earthly brother but a brother by Spirit.(Fantastic! But you will condemn me for not having people in my home, with my child, who have told me out-right, that they would rather worship satan and would sacrifice my wife and child if required? You would condemn me not to have someone in my home that has told me that God is a myth, then he/she spits on Him, and doesn't care?
That happened once.
It will not happen again.

I don't go and do all of the things that unbelievers do to "win" them to Christ (probably not, since unbelievers rarely try to turn people to Christ.)but I will most certainly give my life to spread the Gospel. (Good for you. Again, what's the problem?)I follow Jesus' example of ministering to the lost since He is my Teacher. I will continue to have them in my home to present the Gospel and pray for them that God would open their hearts - and He's done so. It's a privilege to be able to be a part of that.

I'll just put this one down as you mis-reading my posts. It was especially obvious about the 'cod' when it was in another post not even mentioning your name.
God Bless and Good-night.

 

[annsni]

I'll just put this one down as you mis-reading my posts. It was especially obvious about the 'cod' when it was in another post not even mentioning your name.
God Bless and Good-night.

I have to apologize - you are correct - it was late and I misread due to you having two posts back to back and in my slumber, I was taking both as written to me. But I still stand by the fact that I hate when believers call people names. I just think it is so not Christ-like and brings us on the same level as the world. I think we should, of all people, be able to act civil to each other and use proper words rather than call people names like a 4 year old.

OK - I'm not sure if we do agree or not on the issue but I see your difference. If a person I knew was adament that they were following Satan, honestly, the only time I'd have them in my home was to initially try to talk to them to show them the truth and after that, it would be for direct ministry (it's close to home now with this going on - an unsaved person who won't follow Christ who just lost their child - I will still have them over for a meal to minister to their needs while bringing up Christ and praying for them) or if they asked to talk. Otherwise, I'd still be friendly but there would be no way that I could be very close to them since our worlds are so different and they're hostile to the Gospel. But for those friends of mine who are unsaved, I will continue to be friends, have them in my home and will continue to share the Gospel until I'm dead. They will never be able to say that they never heard. I don't tell them "choose now" and if they don't choose Christ that we're no longer friends but I will continue to present the truth in love as we do some life together. But there will never be the opportunity to be as close as brothers and sisters in Christ can be - there's an intimacy that cannot happen because we do not have that common ground of Christ.