How should Christians judge America?

[Calminian]

...You pretend you know yet you vote for evil.
MB

What evil do you think he's voting for? Who do you vote for?

 

[Wesley Briggman]

Seems as if money has taken over God;s place. Christ did say to come out of her so that we may not be partakers of her sins. He didn't say which church. He just said church.

#52

MB, is your comment based on the following scripture? If so, I may be wrong, but I think this is referring to conditions during the tribulation period. If not, please provide the scripture to support your statement.

[Rev 18:2-4 KJV] 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

 

[MB]

He appointed 2 pro-life justices, you saw what happened with that and is still happening.
Soon perhaps he will be appointing another to replace RBG then Roe v, Wade can be overturned.
He has so far budgeted almost 2 trillion dollars to the military.
My military family members are saying that the results have been greatly appreciated and esprit de corps is very good.
The economic boon.
Unemployment gone...

Yes it could be better but the marxist progressives have convinced the regular Democrats and the neocons, the RINOs, the haters to resist, resist, resist...

I am also disappointed with the RNC establishment who are sound asleep at the wheel.
Barr seems to be hiding away in the mouse hole with Sessions, etc...

I am aware of these things yet the boom where I live was well underway before he got elected. Trump has nothing to do with the current boom neither did Obama. Oil has everything to do with it and Colorado is right in the middle of the oil fields. I knew this was coming I use to work for oil exploration companies. Some say it's the largest oil discovery the world has ever seen. Just about every company here has help wanted signs in there windows.No body is getting rich but the rich.
MB

 

[Revmitchell]

Trump has everything to do with the boom

 

[MB]

#52

MB, is your comment based on the following scripture? If so, I may be wrong, but I think this is referring to conditions during the tribulation period. If not, please provide the scripture to support your statement.

[Rev 18:2-4 KJV] 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

True it does but everything doesn't seem to happen all at once. I believe we are building up to those positions and they may be precursors to the trials of the tribulation.
MB

 

[Calminian]

I am aware of these things yet the boom where I live was well underway before he got elected. Trump has nothing to do with the current boom neither did Obama. Oil has everything to do with it and Colorado is right in the middle of the oil fields. I knew this was coming I use to work for oil exploration companies. Some say it's the largest oil discovery the world has ever seen. Just about every company here has help wanted signs in there windows.No body is getting rich but the rich.
MB

This honestly sounds like leftist denial, or TDS. the fact is presidents and politicians can do much to ruin good trends. Trump has kept alive some trends and has created some new trends, especially with the tax cut stimulus. If you can't give him any credit, it's just plain denial.

 

[MB]

Trump has everything to do with the boom

I give up. What do you think he has to do with the discovery of oil.
MB

 

[MB]

This honestly sounds like leftist denial, or TDS. the fact is presidents and politicians can do much to ruin good trends. Trump has kept alive some trends and has created some new trends, especially with the tax cut stimulus. If you can't give him any credit, it's just plain denial.

It isn't leftist. Do you live in Colorado? Most likely not or you would have made such an ignorant statement. The Boom started here about 7 years ago prove me wrong.
MB

 

[Calminian]

It isn't leftist. Do you live in Colorado? Most likely not or you would have made such an ignorant statement. The Boom started here about 7 years ago prove me wrong.
MB

Sorry, you can prove your own nonsense. The boom started in 2016 when the wet blanket was lifted.

And who are you voting for, and what is this voting for evil you keep talking about?

 

[MB]

Who'

Sorry, you can prove your own nonsense. The boom started in 2016 when the wet blanket was lifted.

And who are you voting for, and what is this voting for evil you keep talking about?

That's what I thought you don't know what you are talking about. Why should I be surprised about what you say. Seems you have the same problem about what you believe.
MB

 

[MB]

This honestly sounds like leftist denial, or TDS. the fact is presidents and politicians can do much to ruin good trends. Trump has kept alive some trends and has created some new trends, especially with the tax cut stimulus. If you can't give him any credit, it's just plain denial.

This is what I thought your all about money you vote your pocket book and not what's best for the country.
MB

 

[Calminian]

This is what I thought your all about money you vote your pocket book and not what's best for the country.
MB

And this is the type of answer I anticipated from you. Obfuscate and run. You're afraid to say who you vote for.

 

[MB]

And this is the type of answer I anticipated from you. Obfuscate and run. You're afraid to say who you vote for.

I certainly have no fear of you. I've already said I didn't vote but you memory can't be counted on for accuracy. Can it?

 

[Calminian]

I certainly have no fear of you. I've already said I didn't vote...

Sorry, I did not catch that, but how sad. The unborn really only have one remedy, the vote of the caring Christian. That's really their only hope.

Not only to you refuse to vote to help them, but call pro-life voters evil. Just makes me very sad (and yes sometime angry, if I let it get to me, which i often do).

 

[MB]

Sorry, I did not catch that, but how sad. The unborn really only have one remedy, the vote of the caring Christian. That's really their only hope.

Not only to you refuse to vote to help them, but call pro-life voters evil. Just makes me very sad (and yes sometime angry, if I let it get to me, which i often do).

It's easy to throw insults around when your hiding behind a computer screen. Here you are trying to prove your saint hood by voting your pocket book

MB

 

[Calminian]

It's easy to throw insults around when your hiding behind a computer screen. Here you are trying to prove your saint hood by voting your pocket book

MB

I see you're no longer posting serious comments. Your'e merely trying to incite anger now.

 

[HankD]

Still keeping the faith in Barr. Law is a complicated thing, especially when it's political.

And I think Trump will need 2 appointments to overturn RvW. Something tells me one of the conservatives will balk.

All that said, the main ingredient, I'm convinced, is the Church. The Church must unify on this issue. If it doesn't, the fight against abortion will fail, and it won't be Trump's fault or the republicans fault. It will be ours, and God will judge us.

Do you really think so Calminian? I'm wondering if it's GOD all along. He;s withholding His grace from the church ready for the trumpet to sound.

 

[MB]

I see you're no longer posting serious comments. Your'e merely trying to incite anger now.

If you weren't you would no longer post things like your trash talk. Seems you accuse others of what you do your self. You are the one full of criticism.
MB

 

[Calminian]

If you weren't you would no longer post things like your trash talk. Seems you accuse others of what you do your self. You are the one full of criticism.
MB

I don't post to purposely incite. Yes, I have posted aggressively and emotionally at times, but would never call out someone for that. There's no way to avoid that here. But you've now devolved into full troll mode, hijacking the thread.

 

[MB]

I don't post to purposely incite. Yes, I have posted aggressively and emotionally at times, but would never call out someone for that. There's no way to avoid that here. But you've now devolved into full troll mode, hijacking the thread.

The fact that you are so excited over our conversation is not my concern. Babies being aborted is not my concern. What is my concern is the gospel. YOUR'S As a christian should be the same. Jesus was Humble and kind you have no resemblance.You just keep on, revenge is your forte. How dare anyone disagree with you.

Here is how I think about the abortions. I believe it is sad so many are killed yet if you think about tthey will never have to suffer in this life. They will never know sin. They will be with Christ because of there purity. This world is so full of sin that it's a blessing not to have to live through it.

I know abortion is sin it's as wrong as it gets but vengeance is not mine it's God's and He will take care of those who's punishment will be horrible. You are so involved in this,, politically minded but IMHO you may work your self into a stroke. There is nothing that can be done about it. The Bible says things will wax worse in the end times. Welcome to the last days before the tribulation. Christ could come at any moment and you, your letting your anger control you.

Your the only one mad. None of this argument means squat. It's just lashing out at each other. I'm right or you are. Tell me what's the difference. Does it make sense to argue about something neither of us can do anything about God can and will. I'm busy looking for His return. Does that make you mad?
MB