That is NOT true...
Hmmm, why do I feel that many of you wouldn't have a problem so much if it was a lesbian who was struggling with same sex attractions?....lol...never heard a man yet who thought that was bad. Anyway....
I should add that there is always a time and place for "CHURCH DISCIPLINE" for those living in blatant biblical sin that the bible is very clear about, such as FORNICATION of any kind and even divorcing unbliblically......but even that is always done IN LOVE and always for RESTORATION for ones walk with others and God!..and it isn't the LAY persons job to be judge, jury and executor...this is done through the leadership of the church. If one sins against you then you can bring it to another s attention and so on...Matt 18, oh I could go on.......Anyway, just wanted that to be clear.
...and I take complete exception to this example. My daughter is a lesbian, and she is just as much engrossed with some group that has taught her that she can be a believer while living out her life as a lesbian. And yes, I see lesbians as sinful as gays. To me, one sin is as wrong as the other. Divorce is a sin. Fornication is a sin. Adultery is s in. Gossip is a sin. Hate and lying is a sin. Stealing is a sin. KILLING unborn babies, is a sin. Molesting children is a sin.
And if someone comes to Jesus and says they are born-again, and EASING off the sin throttle, a red flag goes up.
I realize that the battle with the flesh and sin is a life long battle. There will be victories, defeats, and more temptations; HOWEVER, and that's a BIG however. A born-again believer can no way continue to do what they were doing. When Jesus told the woman to "Go and sin no more!" Was He just using a metaphorical apporach? Was he just telling her to ease off the men [instead of three or four a day, try one a day]?
I don't think so...take for example this definition of repentance from Gracethrufaith.com.
"The word in the New Testament usually translated
“repent” is the Greek word
“metanoeo”. It means “to change your mind; reconsider; or,
to think differently.” Granted, if a person changes his mind (repents) toward certain sins in his life, he may become very sorrowful and may even stop committing those sins, but this would be a result of repenting, not repentance itself.
When God tells an unsaved man to repent, He means for that man to change his mind about how to reach God and accept His way of salvation. The person must change his mind from any idea of saving himself through religion or good works, and trust Christ’s death as payment for everything he has done wrong."
Furthermore [taken from Gospel Translations.com] - A man’s penitential activity, however, are subsumed and summarized by this one verb
shub. For better than any other verb it combines in itself the two requisites of repentance:
:jesus:They conclude by saying, “To be sure, there is no systematic spelling out of the doctrine of repentance in the OT. It is illustrated (Ps 51) more than anything else. Yet the fact that people are called
“to turn” either “to” or “away from” implies that sin is not an ineradicable stain, but by turning,
a God-given power, a sinner can redirect his destiny. There are two sides in understanding conversion, the free sover-eign act of God’s mercy and man’s going beyond contrition and sorrow to a conscious decision of turning to God. The latter includes repudiation of all sin and affirmation of God’s total will for one’s life.”
FINALLY - “For if after they have escaped the pollutions [fornication, adultery, murder, homosexuality, gossip. lies, hate] of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Sav-ior Jesus Christ, they
are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire” (2Pe 2:20-22).
WOULD NOT a repentant homosexual that continues in the act of homosexuality would be like any other sinner that returns to their fleshly sin [adulltery, fornication, hate, gossip, lying, hating, killing, causing division in the church], like a dog returning to devour its vomit???
That is the question some of you need to provide an answer to if you continue to support this ridiculous idea that a born-again child of God can ease away from their sin. :wavey:
