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Huckabee preaches in S.C.

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The Scribe

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Revmitchell said:
Is there any evidence available to smear the character of this man in this fashion? The very basic understanding of Christian love is that we do not act suspuciously of another until there is clear evidence to do so.

Just because he is a candidate does not offer enough evidence to question his motives behind the pulpit. And I doubt anyone here knows the details of the circumstances of his invitation to preach in that church.

This thread has thus far been very sad.
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I haven't seen any evidence to smear his character either, or his motives behind the pulpit.

1 Thessalonians 4:6 (KJV)
That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.
 
mcdirector

mcdirector

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Revmitchell said:
Actually you said he was there on a politcal stump. Another said he was there to gain votes. This places him in the pulpit with alterior motives. No evidence has been given to support this other than he is a candidate. This unnecessarily assigned motives that cannot be proved. We should assume he is there with the correct motives unless he has a proven track record of doing otherwise.
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Right. I did say that. I said it again in the post you quoted. He is running for office. Why is he in South Carolina? We all have logical brains to make the connection. As a preacher running for office, he has to be very careful to be above reproach.

Again, we are not smearing him. We are expressing our opinion in a public forum. I think it was unwise of him to preach while on the political stump. He is campaigning for the Republican nomination of President of the United States. He has made his intent clear.
 
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Revmitchell

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mcdirector said:
Right. I did say that. I said it again in the post you quoted. He is running for office. Why is he in South Carolina? We all have logical brains to make the connection. As a preacher running for office, he has to be very careful to be above reproach.

Again, we are not smearing him. We are expressing our opinion in a public forum. I think it was unwise of him to preach while on the political stump. He is campaigning for the Republican nomination of President of the United States. He has made his intent clear.
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Why is it unwise?
 
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JamieinNH

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Revmitchell said:
We should assume he is there with the correct motives unless he has a proven track record of doing otherwise.
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So where was your drum when people were talking about Hillary and her crying? (I believe that was staged) but I didn't see you post anything about that...

No matter what kind of invite he had, he shouldn't have preached in a state where he is stumping for POTUS.

Jamie
 
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Revmitchell

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mcdirector said:
Because it could be construed that he is campaigning behind the pulpit - whether or not he was.
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Since his words do not lend to that such a notion is inappropriate. And people can find some "possible" motives behind every action we take.
 
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Revmitchell

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JamieinNH said:
So where was your drum when people were talking about Hillary and her crying? (I believe that was staged) but I didn't see you post anything about that...

No matter what kind of invite he had, he shouldn't have preached in a state where he is stumping for POTUS.

Jamie
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Unless his words behind the pulpit reveal a motive other than what he was called there to do he should have done exactly what God called him to do. Unless you can establish that God did absolutely did not call him there to preach on that Sunday. Where I come from when a man preaches a godly message we recognize that as God's doing.
 
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saturneptune

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Revmitchell said:
Why is it unwise?
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The whole attitude is unwise. Would he have been in South Carolina preaching the Gospel if he was not running for a political office?

No one is smearing Huckabee's character. In fact, chances are very good I will vote for him. You totally miss the point. You being a pastor, should see it quite clearly. You do not mix the Holy and unholy.
 
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mcdirector

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Again, I'm not looking at motives - only actions and since Huckabee is a candidate for President, we do get to examine his actions.

He is in SC for the purposes of campaigning for political office. I just think it would have been better if he'd left it at that and met the church members at some other venue.
 
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Why is it always assumed his motives are bad? Why is it hard to assume that just MAYBE he is using his presidential campaign to focus attention on Christ, and THAT is the reason for preaching Sunday?
 
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JamieinNH

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webdog said:
Why is it always assumed his motives are bad? Why is it hard to assume that just MAYBE he is using his presidential campaign to focus attention on Christ, and THAT is the reason for preaching Sunday?
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Would this apply if a Pastor was seen coming out of a crack house every day? Would think that he was just trying to reach the people in that house, or would you think he might have a problem?

When you're a Pastor you have to be above reproach. If you're a Pastor running for the office of POTUS, then you have even more to think about.

If I implied that he did this on purpose as a stunt, then I will retract that, but I stand by my statement thaty this shouldn't be done.

Jamie
 
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Would this apply if a Pastor was seen coming out of a crack house every day? Would think that he was just trying to reach the people in that house, or would you think he might have a problem?
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It would all depend. If the pastor has a drug outreach program, I wouldn't assume anything.
When you're a Pastor you have to be above reproach. If you're a Pastor running for the office of POTUS, then you have even more to think about.

If I implied that he did this on purpose as a stunt, then I will retract that, but I stand by my statement thaty this shouldn't be done.
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What shouldn't be done....preaching if you are a POTUS candidate? Why?

FTR, I'm neither for or against Huckabee at this point.
 
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JamieinNH

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webdog said:
It would all depend. If the pastor has a drug outreach program, I wouldn't assume anything.
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But if he didn't....

webdog said:
What shouldn't be done....preaching if you are a POTUS candidate? Why?
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Preaching in the State your currently stumping in. If he had not been running for POTUS would he be in SC preaching? No one really knows, but that answer would be more than likely no.

I understand this issue of a close one for some people. Because he is a Pastor doesn't give him a pass when it comes to preceived right and wrong when running for POTUS. It's just like Hillary's cry. There are Pastor's on this board that was laughing at the idea of that be real, and yet we're suppose to just turn a blinded eye to this? No. Not me..

It's wrong in my book.

Jamie
 
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Preaching in the State your currently stumping in. If he had not been running for POTUS would he be in SC preaching? No one really knows, but that answer would be more than likely no.
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Tell me why the man cannot be using his celebrity in the state he is campaigning in to bring others to Christ? Why should this be forbidden? Should athletes not use their celebrity in sporting venues to win some to Christ?
You are assuming he preached to garner votes. I'm also putting out there the plausibility that his intentions were to put the focus on Christ USING his campaign in SC. There is a huge difference, IMO.
 
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JamieinNH

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webdog said:
Tell me why the man cannot be using his celebrity in the state he is campaigning in to bring others to Christ? Why should this be forbidden? Should athletes not use their celebrity in sporting venues to win some to Christ?
You are assuming he preached to garner votes. I'm also putting out there the plausibility that his intentions were to put the focus on Christ USING his campaign in SC. There is a huge difference, IMO.
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How many churches did he preach for in NH or Iowa?

Jamie
 
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I find it odd that any Christian would think preaching the Gospel to be "wrong" just because it's done by a presidential candidate. Praise God that he is obedient no matter the circumstances...
 
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Ivon Denosovich

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I don't like Huckabee as a candidate and wouldn't vote for him even if he was the last and only candidate in the world, but I was taken aback by the message. This is going to shock everyone, probably me most of all, but I'm glad Huckabee reminded America of the importance of Christ and irrelevance of our righteousness. He caused me to think back to the time when I was six years old and crying out to God for salvation in a pew in Clays Mill Road Baptist Church in Lexington.

Huckabee? Hate his politics. Love his faith.*


*Assuming it's real and not just a show.
 
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