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Yes, he was a liar who denied his adultery with other woman. </font>[/QUOTE]Do you know this to be true or is it hearsay? What evidence or proof do you have? What is the Biblical standard for receiving such an accusation? Have you met that standard before passing along the gossip?
What "Holy Icons" would you be speaking of? Hyles was an icon for many IFB/KJVO's. So is Schaap. There are many others who are "icons" who are just a warped theologically as they were. In Hyles case the stories had been floating around for years. Many knew of them back in the late 70's and early 80's or even sooner. His son in law continues to propagate his heretical doctrines. The church and college are well known to have had and still be turning out sexual deviates, and it's a shame. There's nothing "politically correct" in scripture telling us to warn others of these things.Originally posted by paidagogos:
From my observation (in psychology, we call it clinical experience), it appears that it is okay in the new and loving Fundamentalist circles to berate, lamblast, cuss, slander, impugn, criticize, and malalign someone as long as you take the politically correct line and plaster the right person. However, we dare not breath a word of suspicion against the scared cows--pardon me--holy icons. Take it and wear it where it fits.
And which version of the "truth" he stood for varied greatly over time. Examples, you say? Here is just one, among many:
Yes, he was a liar who denied his adultery with other woman. </font>[/QUOTE]Do you know this to be true or is it hearsay? What evidence or proof do you have? What is the Biblical standard for receiving such an accusation? Have you met that standard before passing along the gossip? </font>[/QUOTE]He was adultery with his secretary named Mrs. Nischik. Voyles was right because I was there before. I went to view where Dr. Jack Hyles' office and noticed something there -- not normal. If you do not believe me, ASK Victor Nischik, her husband for yourself.
How about his pre-1980's denunciation of KJVOism (to the extent of expelling HAC students in 1978 who promoted it), vs. his later claims (see Enemies of Soul Winning, 1993) in which he stated that only those who had been saved out of the KJV actually had salvation.
BTW, to make flatly contradictory statements (even separated by 22 years time) disqualifies one from being able to claim that they have always proclaimed the TRUTH. Either he was wrong in 1970, or he was wrong in 1992. Absolute TRUTH (and he presents the subject of Storehouse Tithing in the 1992 book as being a Biblical TRUTH) is unchanging.
My Pastor is a graduate of HAC, and I believe him to be a 'die-hard' fan; however, most members never heard of Hyles until we went to this church. My Pastor mentions his name admiringly ever so often; however, I haven't seen where what Hyles did, or has alledgedly done, has impacted our church whatsoever. So far (over three years now), I haven't seen anything that indicates the church is not going in the right direction. Of course, there are some things that we disagree on; however, strictly from a scriptural basis, we seem to be a church in line with the teaching of the Bible. I am familiar with what information is available on the internet regarding Jack Hyles, and his son David; however, since I personally do not know the man, nor have I really ever heard him preach (listed to snips on the internet), and it doesn't seem to be having a negative impact on my church, then I do not pay much attention to what is happening in FBC. I did get a chance to see a VHS of Dr. Schaap's America, America sermon, and did quite enjoy. Of course, he isn't nearly as good as my Pastor when it comes to preaching. Of course, I may be a little bias.
I read it. It is sad.
He was working under Jack Hyles' ministry for many years until he resigned from Hyles' church. George confronted Jack concerning the problems what George suspected. They disagreed each other then George left Hyles church. I agreed with George Godfrey.
Absolutely.
Thanks. I can only extend my sympathy. Pinellas Park hired Dave Hyles (proven pervert, sexual predator, adulterer, abandoning his family, etc etc) AFTER all the facts became known and the evil he did continued. I will not burden folks here, but of course the same Dave Hyles did the same and worse to innocent folks there.