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Hyles Anderson College
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The "hands off" rule is is to keep girls from sitting on their boyfriend's lap..etc. You dont take it to ridiculous extremes like tapping a person on the shoulder for the purpose of getting someone's attention, or helping them when they have fallen..etc.
At deaf camp one time, a deaf girl was leaning against the fence. I couldnt get in front of her and she had people on each side of her.. so I tapped her on the shoulder. She looked at me like... "are you nuts??????????" Then she said.. "Your church must me a liberal church".
Those same folks will send their wives to a MALE doctor who then proceeds to touch them wherever he must. Just makes no sense to be so extreme with the rule.
At deaf camp one time, a deaf girl was leaning against the fence. I couldnt get in front of her and she had people on each side of her.. so I tapped her on the shoulder. She looked at me like... "are you nuts??????????" Then she said.. "Your church must me a liberal church".
Those same folks will send their wives to a MALE doctor who then proceeds to touch them wherever he must. Just makes no sense to be so extreme with the rule.
DeafPosttrib
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Askjo,
To buy Mrs. Victor Nischik's book about Jack Hyles, is not necesscary. I don't care either it is true or lie, doesn't matter to me, Victor Nischik is trying to convicting us, that Jack Hyles is wrong doing. I consider of her book to selling is not to glory God. I do not think God is please to see Mrs. Nischik sells her book, trying to convict people to believe her story on Jack Hyles.
Because I consider, it is part of rumours. Rumour is a sin. Stabbing on Hyles' back is not right. I guess that Mrs. Nischik seems have bitter and obesses on Jack Hyles in the past. She have to let the past go, let God takes care of Jack. She cannot doing anything being try to file case or sue against Hyles as revenge. She have to let it go, and let God take care of Jack.
I do not believe that any Christian who is sue against Pastor. That is not the Bible public.
My friends told me, they did getting a lawyer for file case sue against their pastor. The lawyer told them, they are not alone, there are SO MANY cases that many pastors actual steal people's money. I told them, they have to let it go. Let God takes care of that pastor. They agreed with me. Also, they told me, they did dropped the case. That's good. I told them, better let God takes care of that pastor, that is not their problems.
I think Mrs. Nischik have so big bitter and obesses against Jack Hyles. It is wrong for her. Being bitter and obssess, both are sin.
And, I do not want to hear "Jack Hyles" in any post in any forums. It is enough for me. Let's look up on the Lord, not man.
Two things I would like to telling you the two facts on Hyles-Anderson College and Hyles, that I do not agree.
Several years ago, when I was a student at Bible College. The President of the college told us, Baptist International Missionary Inc. (B.I.M.I.) Presdient Don Sisk was very upset on Jack Hyles. The couple who was graduated from Hyles-Anderson College. Decided to filling out the application at BIMI to become missionary as candidate. Then, later, they were approved as candidate as missionary under BIMI. But, somehow, couple left BIMI as candidate, and to join missionary board under Hyles-Anderson College. Dr. Don Sisk was so angry with Jack Hyles. Dr. Sisk called Jack Hyles, and he rebuked at Hyles for forced them to join under Hyles-Anderson College. I am 100% agree with Dr. Don Sisk.
Because, Hyles forced them to join missionary board as candidate under Hyles-Anderosn College, is not right, that is against God's Will. And Dr. Sisk did told Dr. Hyles to leave them alone. Dr. Sisk was right.
Couple have their rights to making decision, and seeking God's Will, no one pull or force them to join missionary board, that is against God's Will.
Also, I do not agree with Hyles-Anderson College's public. All students must be married from the same college, not marry from different college. That is against God's Will.
No doubt, I consider, Jack Hyles controled people like as dicator, sorry to saying it.
Thirdly, I would like to tell you share a true sad fact story about a deaf evangelist.
First, I met him at National Techincal Institute for the Deaf(NTID) in Rochester, NY in 1989. He used attend First Bible Baptist Church because of good deaf ministry there. In 1991, he burdened for Chicago. Because he grew up in Chicago. So, he and his family moved to Chicago. He did attend Bethel Baptist Church in metro area of Chicago. He was so fraustrate with that pastor, because he does not understand deaf culture. Also, he left that church, because it uses different Version. Obivously, he is KJV Onlyism. Because of First Bible Baptist Church of Rochester, Ny, it is very strong KJV Onlyism because of influence from Dr. Peter Ruckman.
In 1993, He and his family joined First Baptist Church of Hammond, IN. He atteneded Hyles-Anderson College in 1994. He graduated from Hyles-Anderson College in 1998. He became deaf evangelist.
I went to Dr. Hyles' funeral. I finally meet him again, it was good to see him again. I visited his house. He just arrived home form his work. He told me, he had a full-time job work at the factory. I puzzled. Why not he have a full-time evangelist serve the Lord? He have 4 or 5 children. He have a big family.
He told me, while he is evangelist. He have to obey under Jack Hyles' authority, also, he have to obey under First Baptist Church because of its public or rules. Also, he received support from First Baptist Church. I do not think FBC support him enough to support his family. So, that why he have to work full-time at the factory.
Also, he told me, when he is on traveling to other church for the revivals. He have to ask Jack Hyles, his boss for the approval what the name of church where he will going for the revival. Also, Jack Hyles told him, he cannot go to any church which do not use KJV. Only go to church with KJV for the revival. I strong disagree with Hyles. Obivously, Hyles was a strong KJV Onlyism. Many churches with deaf ministries really need revival so badly, I don't care what kind of Versions, they use. They need revival. Also, I think he does not have enough support from churches, because many churches do not use KJV. I believe he attend only few churches with KJV like New York City(Brooklyn), Louisana, and other?? That's all. That is silly.
He better being indpendent and off from under Hyles' authority.
And what's more? He was under stress, have to focus on ministry at FBC too much. Not have time spend with his family. I am no doubt, he have hard times with finanical and money budget to car of his big family.
less than 2 years ago, I heard from my old friend told, he got divorced. My heart broken to hear about him. I feel bad for him. I believe Hyles actual destroyed his family. Hyles' control with his power and auhtority is not good. I consider, he was acts like as dicator. Sorry to saying it.
If anyone of you considering to attend Hyles-Anderson College. I advice you NOT attend that college!
There are so PLENTY many good Independent Fundamental Baptist colleges in America. Why not you try to visit them? Ask God, for His guide where He wants you to go, better follow Him. He knows more than our advice. Better listen His guide, and seeking the door open, if you see the door opens, then go ahead enter it, and find God's Will and have peace with it.
In Christ
Rev. 22:20 -Amen!
To buy Mrs. Victor Nischik's book about Jack Hyles, is not necesscary. I don't care either it is true or lie, doesn't matter to me, Victor Nischik is trying to convicting us, that Jack Hyles is wrong doing. I consider of her book to selling is not to glory God. I do not think God is please to see Mrs. Nischik sells her book, trying to convict people to believe her story on Jack Hyles.
Because I consider, it is part of rumours. Rumour is a sin. Stabbing on Hyles' back is not right. I guess that Mrs. Nischik seems have bitter and obesses on Jack Hyles in the past. She have to let the past go, let God takes care of Jack. She cannot doing anything being try to file case or sue against Hyles as revenge. She have to let it go, and let God take care of Jack.
I do not believe that any Christian who is sue against Pastor. That is not the Bible public.
My friends told me, they did getting a lawyer for file case sue against their pastor. The lawyer told them, they are not alone, there are SO MANY cases that many pastors actual steal people's money. I told them, they have to let it go. Let God takes care of that pastor. They agreed with me. Also, they told me, they did dropped the case. That's good. I told them, better let God takes care of that pastor, that is not their problems.
I think Mrs. Nischik have so big bitter and obesses against Jack Hyles. It is wrong for her. Being bitter and obssess, both are sin.
And, I do not want to hear "Jack Hyles" in any post in any forums. It is enough for me. Let's look up on the Lord, not man.
Two things I would like to telling you the two facts on Hyles-Anderson College and Hyles, that I do not agree.
Several years ago, when I was a student at Bible College. The President of the college told us, Baptist International Missionary Inc. (B.I.M.I.) Presdient Don Sisk was very upset on Jack Hyles. The couple who was graduated from Hyles-Anderson College. Decided to filling out the application at BIMI to become missionary as candidate. Then, later, they were approved as candidate as missionary under BIMI. But, somehow, couple left BIMI as candidate, and to join missionary board under Hyles-Anderson College. Dr. Don Sisk was so angry with Jack Hyles. Dr. Sisk called Jack Hyles, and he rebuked at Hyles for forced them to join under Hyles-Anderson College. I am 100% agree with Dr. Don Sisk.
Because, Hyles forced them to join missionary board as candidate under Hyles-Anderosn College, is not right, that is against God's Will. And Dr. Sisk did told Dr. Hyles to leave them alone. Dr. Sisk was right.
Couple have their rights to making decision, and seeking God's Will, no one pull or force them to join missionary board, that is against God's Will.
Also, I do not agree with Hyles-Anderson College's public. All students must be married from the same college, not marry from different college. That is against God's Will.
No doubt, I consider, Jack Hyles controled people like as dicator, sorry to saying it.
Thirdly, I would like to tell you share a true sad fact story about a deaf evangelist.
First, I met him at National Techincal Institute for the Deaf(NTID) in Rochester, NY in 1989. He used attend First Bible Baptist Church because of good deaf ministry there. In 1991, he burdened for Chicago. Because he grew up in Chicago. So, he and his family moved to Chicago. He did attend Bethel Baptist Church in metro area of Chicago. He was so fraustrate with that pastor, because he does not understand deaf culture. Also, he left that church, because it uses different Version. Obivously, he is KJV Onlyism. Because of First Bible Baptist Church of Rochester, Ny, it is very strong KJV Onlyism because of influence from Dr. Peter Ruckman.
In 1993, He and his family joined First Baptist Church of Hammond, IN. He atteneded Hyles-Anderson College in 1994. He graduated from Hyles-Anderson College in 1998. He became deaf evangelist.
I went to Dr. Hyles' funeral. I finally meet him again, it was good to see him again. I visited his house. He just arrived home form his work. He told me, he had a full-time job work at the factory. I puzzled. Why not he have a full-time evangelist serve the Lord? He have 4 or 5 children. He have a big family.
He told me, while he is evangelist. He have to obey under Jack Hyles' authority, also, he have to obey under First Baptist Church because of its public or rules. Also, he received support from First Baptist Church. I do not think FBC support him enough to support his family. So, that why he have to work full-time at the factory.
Also, he told me, when he is on traveling to other church for the revivals. He have to ask Jack Hyles, his boss for the approval what the name of church where he will going for the revival. Also, Jack Hyles told him, he cannot go to any church which do not use KJV. Only go to church with KJV for the revival. I strong disagree with Hyles. Obivously, Hyles was a strong KJV Onlyism. Many churches with deaf ministries really need revival so badly, I don't care what kind of Versions, they use. They need revival. Also, I think he does not have enough support from churches, because many churches do not use KJV. I believe he attend only few churches with KJV like New York City(Brooklyn), Louisana, and other?? That's all. That is silly.
He better being indpendent and off from under Hyles' authority.
And what's more? He was under stress, have to focus on ministry at FBC too much. Not have time spend with his family. I am no doubt, he have hard times with finanical and money budget to car of his big family.
less than 2 years ago, I heard from my old friend told, he got divorced. My heart broken to hear about him. I feel bad for him. I believe Hyles actual destroyed his family. Hyles' control with his power and auhtority is not good. I consider, he was acts like as dicator. Sorry to saying it.
If anyone of you considering to attend Hyles-Anderson College. I advice you NOT attend that college!
There are so PLENTY many good Independent Fundamental Baptist colleges in America. Why not you try to visit them? Ask God, for His guide where He wants you to go, better follow Him. He knows more than our advice. Better listen His guide, and seeking the door open, if you see the door opens, then go ahead enter it, and find God's Will and have peace with it.
In Christ
Rev. 22:20 -Amen!
You misunderstand what I talked about 2 books. These books did NOT talk about "sue against Jack Hyles." Read these books to see a TRUE story.
The lawyer wrote a book about the adultery and murder including a picture and documents.
Victor Nischik wrote a book about the FRAUD, adultery, church and church members. His book is a story of faith in God, dependence on the teaching of the Bible, and reliance on the Holy Spirit.
Deafposttrib, do you know about murder? Why let them FREE like O.J.?
NaasPreacher (C4K)
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I don't believe this to be true. A church should be judged by its love for the Lord, its beliefs, and its compassion towards others, not according to how many people attend it. </font>[/QUOTE]I agree Terry. Wait a minute - I agree with Terry?!?!
I Am Blessed 24
Active Member
I don't believe this to be true. A church should be judged by its love for the Lord, its beliefs, and its compassion towards others, not according to how many people attend it. </font>[/QUOTE]I agree Terry. Wait a minute - I agree with Terry?!?!
</font>[/QUOTE]If a church has love for the Lord, the right beliefs, and compassion towards others - IT WILL GROW...
NaasPreacher (C4K)
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Wow! Does that mean that most of the conservative, independent Baptist churches in Western Europe don't have a love for the Lord, the right beliefs, and compassion towards others?
Apologies for the off topic comment.
Apologies for the off topic comment.
I Am Blessed 24
Active Member
Playing 'devil's advocate' Roger?
Too many folks have never experienced a truly challenging ministry and criticize those who have for only having a 10 member church. My former professor, Dr. Wilton, pastored a church in White Castle, La. The area is 94% Catholic.. very hard to grow. He told us each Tuesday what had happened and it was a struggle. The church did not really grow numerically. Later, he moved to another state and I hear is one of the fastest growing (numerical) churches in the SBC. I dont like to say that if a church does not grow numerically, something is ALWAYS wrong.
I Am Blessed 24
Active Member
In some areas, 10 people may constitute a big church.
We are definitely off the original topic.
Maybe someone would like to start a new thread on Church Growth?
We are definitely off the original topic.
Maybe someone would like to start a new thread on Church Growth?
NaasPreacher (C4K)
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Terry_Herrington
New Member
I don't believe this to be true. A church should be judged by its love for the Lord, its beliefs, and its compassion towards others, not according to how many people attend it. </font>[/QUOTE]I agree Terry. Wait a minute - I agree with Terry?!?!
</font>[/QUOTE]If a church has love for the Lord, the right beliefs, and compassion towards others - IT WILL GROW... </font>[/QUOTE]itQuit drinking the Hyles Kool-Aid and come back to reality. A church is not measured by how many much it grows.
I Am Blessed 24
Active Member
I did not say it was - but there is a thread started on church growth.
I suggest you post there on that subject.
I suggest you post there on that subject.
loving2daysyouth
New Member
Glad to see some people never give up!
I hope when I die, everyone knocks on my ministry.
When I play ball, I enjoy people talking "trash" because it means they are threatened by me and my ability. They don't pay attention to the one's with no skill.
This is the same thing: You all kill a dead man constantly (I've not been here in 2 days!) because of whatever reasons, I believe, you feel threatened. According to the Word of God, constant bashing is causing a "schism" in the body of Christ.
If you choose to not be associated, that's fine, do so, if you are "fully persuaded" in your own mind. The bashing part is both unBiblical and unfounded. It's not your job to "educate"
I hope when I die, everyone knocks on my ministry.
When I play ball, I enjoy people talking "trash" because it means they are threatened by me and my ability. They don't pay attention to the one's with no skill.
This is the same thing: You all kill a dead man constantly (I've not been here in 2 days!) because of whatever reasons, I believe, you feel threatened. According to the Word of God, constant bashing is causing a "schism" in the body of Christ.
If you choose to not be associated, that's fine, do so, if you are "fully persuaded" in your own mind. The bashing part is both unBiblical and unfounded. It's not your job to "educate"
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Preach the Word: be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage - with great patience and careful instruction.
2 Timothy 3:16-17, 4:2
Jack Hyles and the ministry of FBC under his direction was in dire need of correction. Perhaps his son-in-law will make the needed changes. We will see.
Preach the Word: be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage - with great patience and careful instruction.
2 Timothy 3:16-17, 4:2
Jack Hyles and the ministry of FBC under his direction was in dire need of correction. Perhaps his son-in-law will make the needed changes. We will see.
loving2daysyouth
New Member
Schaap is doing an excellent job with the leadership change. Another godly man to continue a good ministry!
loving2daysyouth
New Member
Shows what you know.
4His_glory
New Member
He is KJVO just like his father-in-law, and that is a fallacy.