Hyper-Calvinism

[JesusFan]

Calvinism's doctrine is open theism. If God is not the author of sin, then open theism is being declared. Since Jesus did not know the time of His Return He was not Infinitely Omniscient only inherently Omniscient.

Jesus is said to be "all knowing" while in the flesh. Pay no attention to the non-stop unbiblical nonsense being posted to hide false doctrine. Calvinism is an open theism doctrine, as they believe with many bible scholars, God does not cause us to sin, rather we are responsible for our sin. Exhaustive Determinism is unbiblical nonsense.

Calvinism is NOT Open Theism, for we hold to God decrees Ordinances as being really sovereign

 

[Van]

Calvinism is NOT Open Theism, for we hold to God decrees Ordinances as being really sovereign

LOL, did you see an explanation of how God is not the author of sin, yet caused (exhaustive determinism) us to sin? Neither did I. Calvinism speaks with forked tongue, saying it is not Open Theism and saying God is not the author of sin. More nonsense from the advocates of false doctrine.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

LOL, did you see an explanation of how God is not the author of sin, yet caused (exhaustive determinism) us to sin? Neither did I. Calvinism speaks with forked tongue, saying it is not Open Theism and saying God is not the author of sin. More nonsense from the advocates of false doctrine.

When you come to write about the sovereignty of God, you are like a monkey playing with a watch. You do not begin to understand it so you try to pull it to pieces. Just because you cannot understand how God is sovereign, yet is not the author of sin, does not mean that it isn't so. The Bible very clearly proclaims it, so that should be enough for you. You just need to humble yourself and accept the written word (Heb. 1:3; Psalm 135:5-6; Psalm 50:21; 1 John 2:16).

 

[JesusFan]

When you come to write about the sovereignty of God, you are like a monkey playing with a watch. You do not begin to understand it so you try to pull it to pieces. Just because you cannot understand how God is sovereign, yet is not the author of sin, does not mean that it isn't so. The Bible very clearly proclaims it, so that should be enough for you. You just need to humble yourself and accept the written word (Heb. 1:3; Psalm 135:5-6; Psalm 50:21; 1 John 2:16).

By Van definition of what Omniscience really means, then the main difference between God and us is that God can see details better and make better "educated guesses" on possible outcomes

 

[JesusFan]

LOL, did you see an explanation of how God is not the author of sin, yet caused (exhaustive determinism) us to sin? Neither did I. Calvinism speaks with forked tongue, saying it is not Open Theism and saying God is not the author of sin. More nonsense from the advocates of false doctrine.

When did I or any other Calvinist here state God causes my sinning, forced Adam and eve and Satan to fall?

 

[Dave G]

And, again if I understand your unstated position, John 6:37 indicates God predestines everything. However, since John 6:37 teaches no such thing, I expect no help.

" All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." ( John 6:37 ).

This tells us that all of God's elect will come to Christ.
It also tells us that all of His elect ( those that have believed on Him and His Son, from the heart ) that come to Him, will not be cast out.

In other words, it teaches the predestination of God's elect to come to Christ ( John 6:37-45, Romans 8:28-30, Philippians 1:29 ), and ( as we know from other places in His word ) their eternal security in their salvation ( John 5:24, John 10:27-29, 1 Peter 1:5 ).

 

[Dave G]

Perhaps other verses can be found that support nothing happens by chance?

In many places, we are told that the Lord sits over, and has control of everything.
He either approves of it, or works things outright... and according to His will.

One only has to read the prophets, the Psalms and the Proverbs, believing what is written, to find these truths.

"O Lord, I know that the way of man [is] not in himself: [it is] not in man that walketh to direct his steps." ( Jeremiah 10:23 )
" [There are] many devices in a man’s heart; nevertheless the counsel of the Lord, that shall stand." ( Proverbs 19:21 ).
" in whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:" ( Ephesians 1:11 ).

" Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me,
10 declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:" ( Isaiah 46:9-10 ).

Job 23:13
Isaiah 14:24
Psalms 33:10-11
Daniel 4:35
Psalms 115:3
Lamentations 3

........Far too may references to list in one post.

 

[Scarlett O.]

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