I have decided

[North Carolina Tentmaker]

Please don't tell me you're equating the actions and policies of a nonChristian government with the kingdom and judgement of Christ.

DT, you ever read the Old Testament? The normal tool God uses to execute his judgement for the history of mankind has been nonChristian, even pagan governments and armies.

 

[LeBuick]

A week ago I had no idea what to do in November. I knew that there was no way on God's green earth I could support anything about Sen Obama.

I was not 'comfortable' with Sen McCain.

I am still not totally at ease with Sen McCain, but Gov Palin has swung my vote. Unless something dramatic happens between now and November my absentee ballot will go back to Alabama marked for McCain and Palin.

Question... What is it about Gov Palin that so concretely swung your vote? She is exactly one week into the campaign and before that she was sparingly known outside Alaska. After looking at the turnouts all over the country to her appearances I am just curious what made so many American's instantly take and put all their hope in her?

 

[LeBuick]

J.C. Watts was who I thought would be a great VP pick this go round. Although I did think he probably wasn't well known enough.

I've changed my mind. Palin is FABULOUS

I wasn't happy with McCain by himself. He has shown himself to be very gracious however in the last few weeks and I do appreciate that. Palin is what swung me (like others) from a vote against someone to a vote for someone.

Just curious, why fabulous ofter knowing her for one week via TV?

 

[Pegs]

O.k. I have read all the posts on this thread. Every one voting now for McCain because of his VP choice. Now I have two questions. Please, don't anyone take offence, I am writing this as a mother of a U.S. troop that has just returned from Iraq.
1. What real say does the VP have in the running of the nation? Therefore, what difference does Palin make if any?

2. What about the lives of our sons and duaghters being killed in Iraq and Afganistan. Do those lives not matter. Didn't McCain say he didn't care if they were there another 100 years? My son was awarded the Bronz Star Medal with Valor, I won't go into details here, but he has 4 more years to serve, and 3 babies at home.

Don't get me wrong, I have great respect for McCain and the fact that he was a POW. But don't go after revenge with my sons life. We have lost enough of our Children fighting this war as it is. If we are going to fight for babies, lets fight for them all.

 

[LadyEagle]

After looking at the turnouts all over the country to her appearances I am just curious what made so many American's instantly take and put all their hope in her?

She's pro-life. Despite what the liberal press tells us and liberal polls, Americans (read red states)

see link here: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/statemapredblue.png

are against abortion. She is a woman, a mother, a military mom, and is a conservative, to name a few.

Regardless of what the liberal press tells us, the majority of Americans have the old fashioned small town values, something that is lost on the political pundits and east and left coasts.

 

[LadyEagle]

O.k. I have read all the posts on this thread. Every one voting now for McCain because of his VP choice. Now I have two questions. Please, don't anyone take offence, I am writing this as a mother of a U.S. troop that has just returned from Iraq.
1. What real say does the VP have in the running of the nation? Therefore, what difference does Palin make if any?

2. What about the lives of our sons and duaghters being killed in Iraq and Afganistan. Do those lives not matter. Didn't McCain say he didn't care if they were there another 100 years? My son was awarded the Bronz Star Medal with Valor, I won't go into details here, but he has 4 more years to serve, and 3 babies at home.

Don't get me wrong, I have great respect for McCain and the fact that he was a POW. But don't go after revenge with my sons life. We have lost enough of our Children fighting this war as it is. If we are going to fight for babies, lets fight for them all.

Palin is an excellent VP choice because she has a son in the military, so she is a military mom. She will be careful in putting our troops needlessly in harm's way, should she ever become President, and if John McCain should be unable to serve, she would be the next President, so her world view is extremely important and her views on everything are extremely important.

So to answer your post, what revenge? Did your son sign up or was he drafted? I can only empathize with your complaint if your son was drafted, and he wasn't. The last I heard, we have a volunteer military.

So, don't get me wrong. I thank your son for the sacrifice he is making for our country. Apparently you have a different POV than your son, but voting for Obama will not only guarantee more slaughter of innocents in the womb, but could very well jeopardize our national security because of his world view.

 

[Petra-O IX]

She's pro-life. Despite what the liberal press tells us and liberal polls, Americans (read red states)

see link here: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/statemapredblue.png

are against abortion. She is a woman, a mother, a military mom, and is a conservative, to name a few.

Regardless of what the liberal press tells us, the majority of Americans have the old fashioned small town values, something that is lost on the political pundits and east and left coasts.

The old reliable standby abortion issue. Talk talk talk but no real action. It is time too send a message that says we are tired of empty promises. Really there are other alternatives than voting for the same ol same ol. Vote a third party and vote these bums (both dems and rep) out.

 

[LadyEagle]

The old reliable standby abortion issue. Talk talk talk but no real action. It is time too send a message that says we are tired of empty promises. Really there are other alternatives than voting for the same ol same ol. Vote a third party and vote these bums (both dems and rep) out.

A third party candidate has no chance of winning. I voted third party (CP) last election and look how that turned out. We are stuck with working within the 2-party system we have and must work within our party to change things. McCain-Palin is a start. Both buck the status quo.

 

[North Carolina Tentmaker]

O.k. I have read all the posts on this thread. Every one voting now for McCain because of his VP choice. Now I have two questions. Please, don't anyone take offence, I am writing this as a mother of a U.S. troop that has just returned from Iraq.
1. What real say does the VP have in the running of the nation? Therefore, what difference does Palin make if any?

2. What about the lives of our sons and duaghters being killed in Iraq and Afganistan. Do those lives not matter. Didn't McCain say he didn't care if they were there another 100 years? My son was awarded the Bronz Star Medal with Valor, I won't go into details here, but he has 4 more years to serve, and 3 babies at home.

Don't get me wrong, I have great respect for McCain and the fact that he was a POW. But don't go after revenge with my sons life. We have lost enough of our Children fighting this war as it is. If we are going to fight for babies, lets fight for them all.

Pegs I would think that having McCain and Palin in Washington, two parents who have both put their sons in combat in Iraq (Palin's deploys in what 4 days?) would be just what you want.

Yes McCain is no going to give away our victory in Iraq. He understands the sacrifice and loss of those soldiers who have given their lives and will not throw that sacrifice away for political gain.

 

[LeBuick]

She's pro-life. Despite what the liberal press tells us and liberal polls, Americans (read red states)

see link here: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/statemapredblue.png

are against abortion. She is a woman, a mother, a military mom, and is a conservative, to name a few.

Regardless of what the liberal press tells us, the majority of Americans have the old fashioned small town values, something that is lost on the political pundits and east and left coasts.

Thanks, I guess that explains it. I really couldn't understand the change in turnout to McCain's visit.

 

[Petra-O IX]

A third party candidate has no chance of winning. I voted third party (CP) last election and look how that turned out. We are stuck with working within the 2-party system we have and must work within our party to change things. McCain-Palin is a start. Both buck the status quo.

And as long as we see it as being a hopless case that it either has to be a Republican or Democrat we will stay stuck in the same rut for centuries to come. Why are people so fearful of supporting a third party candidate? Sure they will lose elections but not always if enough momentum finally builds up to make for a strong third party.

 

[Pegs]

Palin is an excellent VP choice because she has a son in the military, so she is a military mom. She will be careful in putting our troops needlessly in harm's way, should she ever become President, and if John McCain should be unable to serve, she would be the next President, so her world view is extremely important and her views on everything are extremely important.

So to answer your post, what revenge? Did your son sign up or was he drafted? I can only empathize with your complaint if your son was drafted, and he wasn't. The last I heard, we have a volunteer military.

So, don't get me wrong. I thank your son for the sacrifice he is making for our country. Apparently you have a different POV than your son, but voting for Obama will not only guarantee more slaughter of innocents in the womb, but could very well jeopardize our national security because of his world view.

Again, my question, Will Palin really have any say in the matters of running this nation? And yes my son volunteered. He is a member of the Army National Gaurds. He was there as an engineer and ended up being in one of the most heated, bloodiest battles so far. He has returned home with some life changing medical problems that yes he signed up for. But it is time to put an end to this war. So many lives lost, and What Victory?

 

[Pegs]

I have decided (What Victory)

Pegs I would think that having McCain and Palin in Washington, two parents who have both put their sons in combat in Iraq (Palin's deploys in what 4 days?) would be just what you want.

Yes McCain is no going to give away our victory in Iraq. He understands the sacrifice and loss of those soldiers who have given their lives and will not throw that sacrifice away for political gain.

I am just not sure that there has been a Victory.

 

[Petra-O IX]

I am just not sure that there has been a Victory.

The whole purpose of invading Iraq was for regime change and having achieved that we still find ourselves quagmired in Iraq. I am proud of what or soldiers have accomplished in Iraq but I think our President was acting very irresponsible in not having a well thought out game plan
I don't believe that the Iraqi people will be comfortable with a U.S. presence in Iraq . If victory is defined as winning the trust of the Iraqi people then I don't think a 100 years will ever be enough time to achieve that kind of victory.

 

[Pegs]

Thank you Petra

The whole purpose of invading Iraq was for regime change and having achieved that we still find ourselves quagmired in Iraq. I am proud of what or soldiers have accomplished in Iraq but I think our President was acting very irresponsible in not having a well thought out game plan
I don't believe that the Iraqi people will be comfortable with a U.S. presence in Iraq . If victory is defined as winning the trust of the Iraqi people then I don't think a 100 years will ever be enough time to achieve that kind of victory.

Thank you Petra, I agree. I think it is pretty obvious at this point that the U. S. is not welcome. And I think also, that is the only way Victory can be defined. My son has stories of the Iraqi troops that were along side of them turning, at any given point on the U.S. troops. And now their government want timelines as to our withdrawal of troops. What does it take to get the point across?

 

[LadyEagle]

We know this about them turning on us, at least some of us do. But the fact remains, we are there, we had the surge, neighborhoods are being turned back over to the Iraqis, women can vote there, a lot of work has been done and sacrifices have been made. Let's move forward and let our troops come home with dignity and victory for accomplishing their mission, even if the correctness of the mission is debatable. That still doesn't take away from the fact that out of the 4 major candidates, McCain is the only one who has fought for this country, like he said. He went from the squalor and torture of being a POW and is on the road to the White House. If anyone deserves it just for the fact of sacrifices made for this country, John McCain does. It's his time.

 

[LeBuick]

Again, my question, Will Palin really have any say in the matters of running this nation? And yes my son volunteered. He is a member of the Army National Gaurds. He was there as an engineer and ended up being in one of the most heated, bloodiest battles so far. He has returned home with some life changing medical problems that yes he signed up for. But it is time to put an end to this war. So many lives lost, and What Victory?

My heart and prayers go out to you Peg and I pray your son doesn't have hidden scars that will linger the rest of his life. My cousin Bobby had flashbacks and other mental scars that plagued him the rest of his life. I agree, we need to get our youth out of this mess as quickly as possible. I applaud what their doing but know first hand what IT'S doing to them...

 

[LeBuick]

Don't get me wrong, I have great respect for McCain and the fact that he was a POW. But don't go after revenge with my sons life. We have lost enough of our Children fighting this war as it is. If we are going to fight for babies, lets fight for them all.

It doesn't appear any ear has heard your voice... My prayers are with you and yours.

 

[LeBuick]

We know this about them turning on us, at least some of us do. But the fact remains, we are there, we had the surge, neighborhoods are being turned back over to the Iraqis, .

It's A (singular) province and they only took 40% control.

It also doesn't change the fact that the Al Qaeda and Taliban came to Iraq to fight us and was not there when we invaded. So the problem we squelched is one we brought with us.

 

[targus]

It also doesn't change the fact that the Al Qaeda and Taliban came to Iraq to fight us and was not there when we invaded. So the problem we squelched is one we brought with us.

Not a bad strategy either...

Bring them out of hiding into one place and terminate them.

How many of those Al Qaeda and Taliban killed in Iraq would have otherwise lived to go on and kill some unsuspecting innocent person in some other part of the world with their murdering suicide bombs?