I have decided

[carpro]

I reject the notion that those who do not vote for McCain are in part responsible if Obama wins.

Of course you do.

But you're purely and simply wrong.

 

[Revmitchell]

Of course you do.

But you're purely and simply wrong.

Says you....

Those who vote for McCain have no idea what they are actualy voting for except more liberal spending, no respect for our borders, and unconstitutional limits of free speech 30 days prior to elections. Oh and reaching across the isle over less than conservative issues. Good luck with that.

 

[Petra-O IX]

I reject the notion that those who do not vote for McCain are in part responsible if Obama wins.

Of course you do.

But you're purely and simply wrong.

:laugh: :laugh:
Oh want to see how you can prove this to be wrong.
A person who is coerced to believe this is completly gutless.

 

[carpro]

Says you....

And history.

 

[Revmitchell]

And history.

History doesnt place responsibilty. You do.

 

[Petra-O IX]

And history.

Now you can prove by using history that a vote for third party candidate had been transferred to a Democrat?
The floor is all yours Carpro. State your case.

 

[carpro]

History doesnt place responsibilty. You do.

The history you deny exists elected George W. Bush.

There is no denying it.

 

[JamieinNH]

I wasn't "implying" anything. I think you should be a little more careful about jumping to conclusions....

Thanks,
LE

In my opinion, you were implying exactly what I thought you implied. Not just me, but others here also..

Sorry it's you that is in the wrong here, but I don't expect you to note that... :BangHead:

Jamie

 

[Revmitchell]

The history you deny exists elected George W. Bush.

There is no denying it.

Your argument is invalid. No one has denied any hstory exists. What is clear is that History doesn't assign blame. It is just a set of facts. It has no ability to reason nor hold opinions. If I do not vote for Obama I hold no resonsibility for his communism. That is a fact. I have the freedome to vote for whom I wish and I am only responsible for that candidate alone.

 

[carpro]

Your argument is invalid. No one has denied any hstory exists. What is clear is that History doesn't assign blame. It is just a set of facts. It has no ability to reason nor hold opinions. If I do not vote for Obama I hold no resonsibility for his communism. That is a fact. I have the freedome to vote for whom I wish and I am only responsible for that candidate alone.

Your rationalization does you no credit, my friend.

 

[LeBuick]

Your argument is invalid. No one has denied any hstory exists. What is clear is that History doesn't assign blame. It is just a set of facts. It has no ability to reason nor hold opinions. If I do not vote for Obama I hold no resonsibility for his communism. That is a fact. I have the freedome to vote for whom I wish and I am only responsible for that candidate alone.

I agree Rev, hate to use the word scare tactic but the theory being thrown at you is just a scare tactic.

 

[Revmitchell]

Your rationalization does you no credit, my friend.

The rationalization is yours. I simply stated facts.

 

[carpro]

The rationalization is yours. I simply stated facts.

The fact is that your attempt to absolve yourself of responsibility for the effect of your vote is akin to Christians voting for Obama and trying to absolve themselves of the part they play in advancing the cause of murdering babies.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I reject the notion that those who do not vote for McCain are in part responsible if Obama wins. We have the right to vote for who we want to and are in no way obligated to vote for a particular candidate just because of a dominate two party system. I may very well vote for Baldwin. But only because the stink will be less than the other two. But that in no way places any resonsibility on me for the victory or the policies of Obama. That credit goes to those who vote for him specifically and no one else. If I vote for anyone else other than Obama it is a vote against him. Period.

You are absolutely correct, 100%.

I had chosen to vote, or even change my vote between now an November, I am voting for that candidate, not for Sen Obama.

 

[Revmitchell]

The fact is that your attempt to absolve yourself of responsibility for the effect of your vote is akin to Christians voting for Obama and trying to absolve themselves of the part they play in advancing the cause of murdering babies.

I have no need to be absolved. You have a twisted sense of responsibility on this issue. I don't want Obama in office nore do I want McCain in office nor Baldwn. I do not have a responsibility to vote for any of them. And If I were to choose to not vote for a Presidential candidate because of a thoughtful process then I bear no responsibility for any of their doomed policies.

Your flawed comaprison falls short of coherent. You should rethink your position.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

The fact is that your attempt to absolve yourself of responsibility for the effect of your vote is akin to Christians voting for Obama and trying to absolve themselves of the part they play in advancing the cause of murdering babies.

Saying that a third party vote is a vote for murdering babies is patently absurd.

 

[LadyEagle]

In my opinion, you were implying exactly what I thought you implied. Not just me, but others here also..

Sorry it's you that is in the wrong here, but I don't expect you to note that... :BangHead:

Jamie

The map speaks for itself. More Americans are pro-life than pro-death. The Democratic party is the party of death.

 

[carpro]

I have no need to be absolved.

You have certainly attempted to do so. Publically. Right here on BB.

You don't want to be responsible for any effects your vote might have.

Nothing could be clearer.

 

[carpro]

Saying that a third party vote is a vote for murdering babies is patently absurd.

I agree.

That's why I would never say it.

 

[Doubting Thomas]

Yea, it is. In fact I am pretty sure that is what will happen some day. It is really no different then God using the Babylonians or Assyrians to judge Israel.

I fear you are right. :tear:

I guess my point is we shouldn't we too quick to assume that our nation's foreign policy decisions are equal to the righteous judgement of God, when they could just be examples of nationalistic (if not imperialistic) hubris instead.

Providence is a tricky thing to read, to say the least, and I get the impression that some (not you) on this board seem to subconsciously equate United States of America as the New Testament equivalent of the OT nation of Israel.

As much as I dislike the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, have you read his sermon that everyone wants to condemn, the one where he said God d**n America. What he is saying is that we as a nation has disobeyed God and ignore his word. Why would we expect God to Bless America when our sin is so great. He mentions racism of course, but he also mentions abortion.

You know what? I myself cannot disagree with some of the points that the Reverend Wright has made in some in his controversial statements/sermons.

As far as your third party vote DT, if that is where you feel led then go for it. We have a great history of third party votes in America and while neither of those men will win the election strong support of their campaigns can result in policy changes by the major parties as they attempt to win your vote next time.

Good points.

No vote is a wasted vote.

I agree.