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Please take the time to look up the definition for the Greek 'spoudazo', which is the infinitive rendered 'study' in the KJV and look up the archaic meaning of 'study'.Originally posted by standingfirminChrist:
NKJ 2 Timothy 2:15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
We are not to be diligent to present ourself approved, but rather Study to show ourself approved unto God. The NKJV implies there is something man can do outside of studying the Word to please God by changing the word 'study' to 'be diligent'. One can be diligent in many things.
But unto Cain and his sacrifice, God had not respect.
They have many times Over and over and over and over! sounds like a broken record!Originally posted by David J:
Will my two questions ever get answered?
what is that weird symbol in the NKJV anyways? it looks occultic!Originally posted by Dr. Bob:
The bibliolater crowd is sure alive and throwing on this thread. If it were up to me, I would ban them all for being schismatics. BTW, know what the Greek word for being divisive (like the onlies)and creating false teaching?![]()
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Study today means vastly different than what it did in 1611. Hence modern English translations use a variety of acceptable English words that shows it is NOT just "book learnin'" (which "study" today would indicate, like it's something we do to master a subject matter).
God's inspired Word was "spoudadzo" from the root "speedy". It's PRIMARY meaning - look it up in Strongs or any lexicon - is "to give diligence, be diligent, endeavour."
As this involves "work" (how foolish to say the other translation give a works-oriented version) it may also be translated as "labor" or "study". So the AV1611 is CORRECT, but our understanding of the word "study" is failing!
It is the EXACT SAME WORD translated "diligence" in the AV1611 in the same book! (2 Tim 4:9 & 21). How can it be "evil" or "sinful" to translate it as "diligence in 2 Tim 2:15? It is simply a choice the AV1611 men made from many equally-acceptable words, and the BEST in their day.
I'd encourage the bibliolaters to "study" a bit before showing gross ignorance of translations, logic and God's Word in public. It is embarrassing to many of us.
Have they ever been answered on any other forum in which we both participate? On every one of them, the KJVOs avoid the subject, trying to change it if possible. We even had one here who impugned the salvation of Doc Cassidy and myself. We see from his spelling, grammar, and groddy ideas, that he's not the roundest marble in the bag, but he still avoids the LACK OF SCRIPTURE question. And we have another, who, like "Peter AV" on Ezboard, keeps promising us Scriptural proof, and, also like Peter, has come up empty so far.Originally posted by David J:
Will my two questions ever get answered?
Why do you keep lying? You still have not answered either question.Originally posted by william s. correa:
They have many times Over and over and over and over! sounds like a broken record!
Ok but the only place in the "ENTIRE" book and they decided to change it Come on! Why? And the blood ommitted over 60 times that I can count, Why? What is that weird symbol in the front pages any ways ? I Know creatinists use that version but if it wasnt Broken why fix it? you notice that the devil only takes away from the Word for he Knows that if something is added a Scholar such as yourself will notice it right away so he Ommits, deletes, removes with out a reason cause he gave you something that looks good, reads well, feels good, and maybe is Ok but I 'm not taking any chances cause the Devil appears as an Angel of Light, but he was a murderer from the beggining, the Father of lies! So then I will not compramise my position I have gone too far to turn back now! Thanx and God blessOriginally posted by robycop3:
Mr. Correa:Sorry 2 Timothy 2 :15 the Only place the Bible tells us to "Study to show thyself approved unto God a Workman that needeth not to be ashamed rightly deviding the word of truth"
Mr. Correa, I thought you used the AV 1611!
My repro copy says "Study to SHEW..."
Anyway, please read my post above to Standing Firm & do the same as I asked him to do.
It is called a triquetra and is an ancient symbol of the Trinity.Originally posted by william s. correa:
what is that weird symbol in the NKJV anyways? it looks occultic!
Why do you keep lying? You still have not answered either question. </font>[/QUOTE]"They" and you are the fibberOriginally posted by TCassidy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by william s. correa:
have many times Over and over and over and over! sounds like a broken record!
It is called a triquetra and is an ancient symbol of the Trinity.Originally posted by TCassidy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by william s. correa:
what is that weird symbol in the NKJV anyways? it looks occultic!
Duh! They didn't change it! YOU did, you Alexandrian apostate bible corrector. The KJV reads, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."Originally posted by william s. correa:
Ok but the only place in the "ENTIRE" book and they decided to change it Come on!
You were asked the same question several times and have not answered it. You say you did but you didn't. Therefore you are a liar, and you know what the bible says about "all liars" don't you?Originally posted by william s. correa:
"They" and you are the fibber
Then whoever you have been listening to is a liar. Birds of a feather!Originally posted by william s. correa:
Thats not what I heard
Then whoever you have been listening to is a liar. Birds of a feather! </font>[/QUOTE]Let God be true and Every man a LiarOriginally posted by TCassidy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by william s. correa:
Thats not what I heard
You were asked the same question several times and have not answered it. You say you did but you didn't. Therefore you are a liar, and you know what the bible says about "all liars" don't you? </font>[/QUOTE]I couldn't fall into hell if i went by it and slipped on a Bannana peeling, I have been sealed unto the day of redemtion!Originally posted by TCassidy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by william s. correa:
"They" and you are the fibber