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I want to see an Arminian Exegete this passage

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MennoSota

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14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Sir, Genesis 3:22 tells us that when man sinned, he came to know good and evil. So even lost men can discern what is good and what is evil. Furthermore, the verse some Calvinists use, "God's ways are higher than our ways" does not mean that we cannot comprehend how God's love functions: No sir, it means that God's righteousness is FAR higher than ours. His LOVE is more fervent. more pure, more Holy and righteous and kind than anything we could ever attain to. That's what it means.

Jesus was sent to this earth to be the propitiation for the sins of the whole world. Ever sing that song: "Could we with ink the ocean fill and were the skies of parchment made, were ever stalk on earth a quill and every man a scribe by trade, to write the love of God above, would drain the ocean dry, nor could the scroll contain the whole though stretched from sky to sky".,....His love is way bigger than even that. God never ordained anyone to Hell: people go there because of their own unbelief.
You still don't provide any evidence that sending sinners to hell is not an act of love by God.
All that God does is loving. When he raised up the Assyrians and Babylonians to conquer Israel and Judah, it was done out of love. When he justly condemns sinners, it is done out of love.
The fact that you cannot comprehend that as love is irrelevant other than it just means your brain is to small to comprehend it.
 

SheepWhisperer

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You still don't provide any evidence that sending sinners to hell is not an act of love by God.
All that God does is loving. When he raised up the Assyrians and Babylonians to conquer Israel and Judah, it was done out of love. When he justly condemns sinners, it is done out of love.
The fact that you cannot comprehend that as love is irrelevant other than it just means your brain is to small to comprehend it.

Hold on a minute, you said this.............

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When God ordains hell for some and heaven for others that is an act of love...........

The burden of proof is on you to provide evidence for that one.
 

MennoSota

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Hold on a minute, you said this.............



The burden of proof is on you to provide evidence for that one.
God is love. Therefore when God ordains people be judged as guilty and sent to hell, he is acting in love.

If you can't accept that truth that's too bad and quite sad.
 

agedman

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Somewhere in the archives is a thread on this matter. It explored the concept that God cannot hate, but that hate was an attribute of God loving less.

God's attributes cannot be extinguished. "God is love...". There is no deminishment into hate. God is not split in His personality, and does not have multiple personalities.

The concept of the attribute that God is love seems lost in some who so desire to hate.

The love of God and the capacity of that love is not that of humankind, for within our limited scope it obliges that He must hate, something, for we certainly do do. But hate is not part of the disclosed character of God given in the Scriptures.

Rather, the matter is of hate expressed by God is that of something or someone loved indeterminately less. It is a matter of comparable value within the spectrum of God's love, but that which does have value - if only for example sake. That is pictured in the statement about Esau. It is that of comparison, not an expression of a characteristic of God.

There is no part of the creation that Is beyond God's love.
 
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