I was sad when they hanged Saddam

[tragic_pizza]

I just feel that if Abortion is Wrong then the Death Penalty is wrong too. Whats the difference, No human of any race, religion, sex, creed, nationality, or any other special interest has any right whatsoever to take another human life.

God alone grants human life, and God alone is entitled to take it. No human being ever came into existence without the express intent of God. Please if you have biblical evidence or scripture that points and states that Death Penalty is right by God please let me know... I am really open to this subject.

Frankly, I know Saddam did horrible, aweful things but he is a sinner just like I am. The only difference is that I accepted Jesus and because of his Awesome Mercy, Gracy, Love, care..I am saved but I am sinner just like he was. However I could be wrong and please...please...take time to clear it up for me

Clear up what? You're right.

 

[tragic_pizza]

mmmm

Well, I do not believe that God hanging His Son upon the Cross was stupid . . .

I guess we may disagree on that . . . but, the sacrifice of my Lord is not what I would call stupid.

I am always amazed at how quickly you and ....... can pull out the straw men.

Please grow up. A little.

(Do not use names - as you did in this post.)

 

[I Am Blessed 24]

I just feel that if Abortion is Wrong then the Death Penalty is wrong too. Whats the difference?

An unborn child has done nothing to be punished for. Saddam has done much...

There is no comparison between abortion and the death penalty except an aborted baby was given the death penalty without a trial.

 

[JonC]

I agree with the death penalty and am pro-life when it comes to abortion. I see no comparison or conflict between the two.

The death penalty is a penalty for criminal actions. You may agree or disagree with the death penalty, but I find it hard to fathom that you see no difference.

The same applies to war. For example, I think that we were right to enter war with Germany – although I think that we would have been justified to enter the war solely to prevent the slaughter of the Jewish citizens. However, there were many innocent people killed through the war process.

 

[tragic_pizza]

Either way, we play God.

But hey, if you think the government is qualified to play God, then more power to ya...

 

[JonC]

There is a difference between “playing God” and being responsible.

 

[annsni]

Nope. With the death penalty, we obey God.

 

[tragic_pizza]

Oh, yeah. I forgot that whole "the New Testament only applies to people I like" thing. Sorry.

 

[annsni]

Oh, yeah. I forgot that whole "the New Testament only applies to people I like" thing. Sorry.

Can you show me anywhere in the NT where God retracted the death penalty?

 

[webdog]

Oh, yeah. I forgot that whole "the New Testament only applies to people I like" thing. Sorry.

If someone lies to God, should we put them to death? God did...in the New Testament (Annanais and Saphirra).

 

[tragic_pizza]

The key: GOD did. Not Peter. Not you. Not me.

The death penalty was used against Christians in the New Testament.

 

[webdog]

The key: GOD did. Not Peter. Not you. Not me.

The death penalty was used against Christians in the New Testament.

Was it a death penalty, though, regardless? Did he spare their lives because in the "New Testament" the death penalty had been abolished?

 

[Ed Edwards]

Either way, we play God.

But hey, if you think the government is qualified to play God, then more power to ya...

It is the responsibility of the civil government to
punish murders. I have no proplem with the government of Iraq
punishing this mass murderer.

1 Peter 2:13-16 (KJV1611 Edition):
Submit your selues to euery ordinance
of man for the Lordes sake, whether it be to the King,
as supreme,
14 Or vnto gouernours, as vnto them
that are sent by him,
for the punishment of euil doers,
and for the praise of them that doe well.
15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing
yee may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men.
16 As free, and not vsing your libertie for a cloake
of maliciousnesse, but as the seruants of God.

 

[tragic_pizza]

Was it a death penalty, though, regardless? Did he spare their lives because in the "New Testament" the death penalty had been abolished?

God passed the sentence and carried it out.

If God wants someone to die, does God need our help? Not so far.

 

[webdog]

It's not whether God needs our help...it's what God commands. He doesn't need our help in spreading the Gospel, either, but He has declared that we do so. As Ed pointed out, He uses men to punish offences against Him and others, as well to carry out His will.

 

[tragic_pizza]

It's not whether God needs our help...it's what God commands. He doesn't need our help in spreading the Gospel, either, but He has declared that we do so. As Ed pointed out, He uses men to punish offences against Him and others, as well to carry out His will.

Nice how when the government does things we like, they're working for God, huh?

 

[DHK]

Was it a death penalty, though, regardless? Did he spare their lives because in the "New Testament" the death penalty had been abolished?

What evidence do you have that the death penalty was abolished in the New Testament?

 

[tragic_pizza]

What evidence do you have that the death penalty was abolished in the New Testament?

We only keep the parts of the Law we like, after all...

 

[DHK]

We only keep the parts of the Law we like, after all...

"We" as in whom? Christians are always in the minority, and we don't make the laws. In fact Christians are to submit to the authorities that are above us, whatever those authorities may be. In Paul's day it was the government of Nero. Paul never complained or said anything against the governmental form of execution. He knew his fate. He was about to be beheaded for his faith. "I know that my departure is at hand," he said. "No one stood with me," at my last trial, he testified. He knew what lied ahead, and yet never said anything against capital punishment.
We are to submit to the government we have--we deserve. God, for the most part--gives us the government that we deserve. We are commanded to submit to it--whether that means captial punishment or not. Personally, I believe that capital punishment is Biblical, and that the principal set forth in Gen.9:6 has never been rescinded.

Genesis 9:6 Whoever sheds man's blood, by man will his blood be shed, for in the image of God made he man.

 

[webdog]

What evidence do you have that the death penalty was abolished in the New Testament?

This is Traggic Pizza's view...not mine. I'm in agreement with you.