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If anyone care about facts.

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Reformed1689

Reformed1689

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MB said:
Not able to show it I see. Your the one with the claim prove it or admit you can't.
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Oh I can show it, but you are the one that claims you know the Bible so very well. 1 John 2:15.

And yes, I am aware the verse is not speaking about individual people but the world system. But that just goes to prove the word world does not always (and in fact rarely does) mean every individual person.

I will await your admittance that you were wrong about the command to not love the world not being in Scripture.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
Oh I can show it, but you are the one that claims you know the Bible so very well. 1 John 2:15.

And yes, I am aware the verse is not speaking about individual people but the world system. But that just goes to prove the word world does not always (and in fact rarely does) mean every individual person.

I will await your admittance that you were wrong about the command to not love the world not being in Scripture.
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Ignorance is bliss Huh!
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HeirofSalvation

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Benjamin said:
Well, obviously there is no respect for staying on topic here, although, you/we already knew that. I tried to help by taking the time to summarize with specifics as someone requested yet, the next 12 posts went off on typical tangent off-topic bickering. But, nice try at attempting to construct a meaningful debate.
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And thanks for the effort.
In reality, the content doesn't disprove Calvinist Theology, but it's not going to be content that any Calvinist will want to meaningfully engage with.

So, they don't.
But they will spam the regular talking points, so goes the "debate", but some will learn from the content.
 
Reformed1689

Reformed1689

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HeirofSalvation said:
And thanks for the effort.
In reality, the content doesn't disprove Calvinist Theology, but it's not going to be content that any Calvinist will want to meaningfully engage with.

So, they don't.
But they will spam the regular talking points, so goes the "debate", but some will learn from the content.
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What content? The video? I can't see the video because it is on YouTube.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
I see that you won't even acknowledge when you are PROVEN wrong. Good to know. I see you aren't willing to be honest in our discussions. I'm done with you on this.
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Of course you are done because you can't prove what your saying is true.
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Reformed1689

Reformed1689

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HeirofSalvation said:
Sorry that you can't view youtube :(
The thread is essentially based upon the content of the video.
Or was...…..
Benjamin's summary is pretty accurate.
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Well the summary from @Benjamin if accurate is a non-starter because it is a strawman argument. Are we free to choose? YES! Absolutely. That is not the question. The question is do we have the capacity to choose? The answer is no if we are slaves to our sin and not changed in nature.

It's like this. Do I have the freedom to become a major league baseball player? YES! Do I have the ability? Absolutely not. Does that mean I do not have free will when it comes to being a major league player? NO. It simply means I do not have the ability.

While not an equal comparison it is a good analogy. Do we have the freedom to choose God? Yes, in the sense that we are ALLOWED to make that choice. But we do not have the ability to make that choice because we are slaves to our nature.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
I gave you the reference that says do not love the world. You ignored it once I posted because you knew you didn't have a leg to stand on. So typical.
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Not true you claim it was a commandment and your the one with out proof.I only asked for book, chapte,r and verse. Now you are trying to wiggle your way out of it. You should never quote scripture unless you can prove it with scripture it self. You did not show me where scripture says what you claim is true. Now your just trying to save face. Your ignorance
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