I had several posts deleted, guess I’m on probation. Kentucky is my friend, as well, & one of the best I have witnessed on this board for being fair, open minded, tolerant, & loving. This is troubling.
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If God chooses, why does He ask me to believe?
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Who has been banned?
1689Dave
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Paul says God forms Christ in us. So the commands and admonitions are part of this.
DavidTAYLOR til May 29
is that after we believe, not before?
1689Dave
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The New Birth begins the process, faith and obedience completes it.
I think the conversation had become without merit , too personal
So to your post, we become like Christ after Salvation , not before, except being in a human body
1689Dave
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If God cannot create a rock so big he cannot lift it, how could he create a universe he cannot control?
He won't act against His nature. He won't violate His Holiness
As I was taught, "a word to the wise should be sufficient".
Gal 6:7 KJV - Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 KJV - For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
Gal 6:9 KJV - And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
Gal 6:10 KJV - As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all [men], especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
Gal 6:7 KJV - Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 KJV - For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
Gal 6:9 KJV - And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
Gal 6:10 KJV - As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all [men], especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
37818
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Then that faith or belief is irrational.
yes, it is . We do not use our minds to believe but our hearts.
Heb 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Heb 11:2
For by it the elders obtained a good report.
Heb 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
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37818
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The heart is a figure of speech for one's intermost being. Irrationalism is wrong when it comes to truth.
Evidence is rational.
To understand is rational.
We understand and believe the evidence after we exercise faith in things we do not understand
the substance of things hoped for , evidence of things not seen, things inside, not outside evidence
Our heart is same as our soul, pnuema, not our psyche , nor soma. Faith is from the soul not psyche
the substance of things hoped for , evidence of things not seen, things inside, not outside evidence
Our heart is same as our soul, pnuema, not our psyche , nor soma. Faith is from the soul not psyche
Being convinced that Jesus came out of the grave after three days is not rational. Neither is my priesthood or sainthood; nor God's love for fallen mankind.
37818
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So are you saying the bodily ressurrection is irrational? ". . . delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. . . ." -- Romans 4:25. ". . . Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. . . ." -- Isaiah 1:18.
He doesn't ask. He commands it. Just as He commands that you do not sin, knowing that it is not in your power not to.