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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by 37818, Nov 9, 2021.

  1. 1689Dave

    1689Dave Well-Known Member

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    Here it is in a nutshell.

    "Universal atonement" = faith comes first, salvation follows.

    "Limited atonement" salvation comes first, faith follows.
     
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    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    UNBIBLICAL RUBBISH! How many times I have shown from John 3:16-18, and other passages, that this is no more than "reformed, unbiblical, theology", without ANY Bible support!
     
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    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    how did you know Jesus Came for your sins? How can you know that you are one of the elect? This is theological nonsense!
     
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    Zero times. Not even once

    peace to you
     
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    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    OPEN your eyes to what the BIBLE, not CALVINISM Teaches, and you might just learn!
     
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    canadyjd Well-Known Member

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    My eyes were open by God Holy Spirit to the Biblical truths concerning the doctrines of grace long before I heard of Calvinism.

    peace to you
     
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    37818 Well-Known Member

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    Do five point Calvinists believe that or not? Do you what to correct them or attack them?
    This is for the five point Calvinists to answer.
     
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    I didn’t know He came for sins!
    I read He came down, He came and took, He came and stood, He came out, He came and told,…

    But does the Scripture state Jesus came for our sins?
     
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    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    The New Testament is full of verses that teach Jesus came into the world to save sinners
     
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    Because His word told me.
     
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    Yeah, like where and how? You could be mistaken
     
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    John 10:3 The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.

    Tell us about this theological non-sense of which you complain.
     
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    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    How do you know for sure, 100%
     
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    John 10:3 The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.

    Yes, God, we ask you to open our eyes and our ears.
     
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    Romans 8:16-17 The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.
     
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    Did God speak to you and say that you are Mine?

    The verse that you keep misquoting is Jesus talking to His Disciples after they were saved
     
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    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    So it is by feeling?
     
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    I've shown you, SBG...
    Many times.
    I was mistaken in believing what I was taught in Independent Baptist churches growing up, my friend...
    It was basically a system of "how to get saved", and it involved the "Romans Road" and a select list of very persuasively delivered ( and often times out-of-context ) bits and pieces of His word.
     
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    You are describing the reformed/Calvinist way...
     
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    The Bible reference you have in mind?
    And you believe Jesus only died for the sins for whom He paid?
     
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