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If you could only have ONE Study Bible?

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McCree79

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Wrong. The ESV SB is quite a bit more detailed than the Zondervan NIV SB.
The older NIV study Bible, I say yes...The ESV is heads and tails above. But the new Zondervan NIV edition from D.A. Carson made up some ground. It is a great study Bible. ESV is still #1 in my book.

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evangelist6589

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The older NIV study Bible, I say yes...The ESV is heads and tails above. But the new Zondervan NIV edition from D.A. Carson made up some ground. It is a great study Bible. ESV is still #1 in my book.

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Mine is from 2005 and I was unaware of a new edition.
 

McCree79

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What say you of the 2011 NIV?
As far as the transaltion it self goes. Overall, it is superior to the 84 edition. I prefer the more literal gender renderings, but laying that issue aside, it is a no contest, 2011 edition does a better job translating the original language. One of the more noticable changes is that the 2011 removes the word "faith" from John's writings. John never used the greek word for faith, so it was replaced with some form of belief or believe. I use the NAC commentary alot. They various authors used to beat up on the NIV84 and favor the NRSV, NASB or RSV renderings. The 2011 has fixed almost all of the issues suggested by these authors. The 2011 edition has addressed concerns by Pillar commentary writers well. Even with the "gender issue" hanging over the NIV2011's head, it is one of the great translations available. It's not my favorite, but I'm a world full of good English translations, it is probably one of the 5 best available in print....as far as combination orginal meaning and readability. I certainly see why people choose it as there primary translation.

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evangelist6589

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As far as the transaltion it self goes. Overall, it is superior to the 84 edition. I prefer the more literal gender renderings, but laying that issue aside, it is a no contest, 2011 edition does a better job translating the original language. One of the more noticable changes is that the 2011 removes the word "faith" from John's writings. John never used the greek word for faith, so it was replaced with some form of belief or believe. I use the NAC commentary alot. They various authors used to beat up on the NIV84 and favor the NRSV, NASB or RSV renderings. The 2011 has fixed almost all of the issues suggested by these authors. The 2011 edition has addressed concerns by Pillar commentary writers well. Even with the "gender issue" hanging over the NIV2011's head, it is one of the great translations available. It's not my favorite, but I'm a world full of good English translations, it is probably one of the 5 best available in print....as far as combination orginal meaning and readability. I certainly see why people choose it as there primary translation.

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I bought the iBooks version for $15 so much cheaper than if I had bought it in print. Looks pretty good so far and it looks to give the ESV SB a challenge.
 

McCree79

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I bought the iBooks version for $15 so much cheaper than if I had bought it in print. Looks pretty good so far and it looks to give the ESV SB a challenge.
It does. In the world of the annotated Study Bibles, it is a 2 horse race. The non-annotated Study Bibles--The Thompson Chain and Hebrew-Greek Keyword are still highly relevant, but of a different type.

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Yeshua1

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Wrong. The ESV SB is quite a bit more detailed than the Zondervan NIV SB.
I was meaning the Zondervan Niv, as that version is basically same thing as Esv bible, but I prefer Esv, so that would be my choice!
Both have great study notes, outlines. srticles, choice depends on translation!
 
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