I see Republicans now standing up against Trump. In fact, i always thought they would lead the impeachment to save the GOP.
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IMO, the final throes of this drawn out facade....
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Trump is playing by the Nazi play book.
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007655
The Press in the Third Reich
When Adolf Hitler took power in 1933, the Nazis controlled less than three percent of Germany’s 4,700 papers.
The elimination of the German multi-party political system not only brought about the demise of hundreds of newspapers produced by outlawed political parties; it also allowed the state to seize the printing plants and equipment of the Communist and Social Democratic Parties, which were often turned over directly to the Nazi Party. In the following months, the Nazis established control or exerted influence over independent press organs.
During the first weeks of 1933, the Nazi regime deployed the radio, press, and newsreels to stoke fears of a pending “Communist uprising,” then channeled popular anxieties into political measures that eradicated civil liberties and democracy. SA (storm troopers) and members of the Nazi elite paramilitary formation, the SS, took to the streets to brutalize or arrest political opponents and incarcerate them in hastily established detention centers and concentration camps. Nazi thugs broke into opposing political party offices, destroying printing presses and newspapers.
I could "follow the way" around Baptist Board wherever you post and make corrections to your errors. It's like following a three year old around and picking up their messes wherever they go.
No, the Nazis did not deploy the radio, press, and newsreels during the first weeks of 1933 to stoke fears of a pending Communist uprising. The Nazis did this after the Reichstag fire of February 27, 1933. So it would not have been until the 3rd month of 1933 when the clamp down on the press occurred. Furthermore, Hitler was not even in power until January 31, 1933, so no Nazi suspension of civil liberties could have occurred in the first weeks of 1933. I have corrected you previously on this, yet here you are again spreading untruths.
No, the SS did not "take to the streets and brutalize and arrest political opponents". These were the deeds of the Brownshirts. In fact, most of the Brownshirt leaders that did this were later killed by members of the SS.
Neither were political opponents incarcerated in hastily constructed concentration camps in the first weeks of 1933. The camps weren't even built until late March or early April. Eventually the SS took over the administration of these camps but they had little to do with the curtailment of civil rights in response to the communist threat.
Could also use a "Fake History" button.
From "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich":
On the day following the fire, February 28, he prevailed on President Hindenburg to sign a decree “for the Protection of the People and the State” suspending the seven sections of the constitution which guaranteed individual and civil liberties. Described as a “defensive measure against Communist acts of violence endangering the state,” the decree laid down that:
Restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press; on the rights of assembly and association; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications; and warrants for house searchers, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.
In addition, the decree authorized the Reich government to take over complete power in the federal states when necessary and imposed the death sentence for a number of crimes, including “serious disturbances of the peace” by armed persons.
Thus with one stroke Hitler was able not only to legally gag his opponents and arrest them at his will but, by making the trumped-up Communist threat “official,” as it were, to throw millions of the middle class and the peasantry into a frenzy of fear that unless they voted for National Socialism at the elections a week hence, the Bolsheviks might take over. Some four thousand Communist officials and a great many Social Democrat and liberal leaders were arrested, including members of the Reichstag, who, according to the law, were immune from arrest. This was the first experience Germans had had with Nazi terror backed up by the government. Truckloads of storm troopers roared through the streets all over Germany, breaking into homes, rounding up victims and carting them off to S.A. barracks, where they were tortured and beaten. The Communist press and political meetings were suppressed; the Social Democrat newspapers and many liberal journals were suspended and the meetings of the democratic parties either banned or broken up. Only the Nazis and their Nationalist allies were permitted to campaign unmolested.
On the day following the fire, February 28, he prevailed on President Hindenburg to sign a decree “for the Protection of the People and the State” suspending the seven sections of the constitution which guaranteed individual and civil liberties. Described as a “defensive measure against Communist acts of violence endangering the state,” the decree laid down that:
Restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press; on the rights of assembly and association; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications; and warrants for house searchers, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.
In addition, the decree authorized the Reich government to take over complete power in the federal states when necessary and imposed the death sentence for a number of crimes, including “serious disturbances of the peace” by armed persons.
Thus with one stroke Hitler was able not only to legally gag his opponents and arrest them at his will but, by making the trumped-up Communist threat “official,” as it were, to throw millions of the middle class and the peasantry into a frenzy of fear that unless they voted for National Socialism at the elections a week hence, the Bolsheviks might take over. Some four thousand Communist officials and a great many Social Democrat and liberal leaders were arrested, including members of the Reichstag, who, according to the law, were immune from arrest. This was the first experience Germans had had with Nazi terror backed up by the government. Truckloads of storm troopers roared through the streets all over Germany, breaking into homes, rounding up victims and carting them off to S.A. barracks, where they were tortured and beaten. The Communist press and political meetings were suppressed; the Social Democrat newspapers and many liberal journals were suspended and the meetings of the democratic parties either banned or broken up. Only the Nazis and their Nationalist allies were permitted to campaign unmolested.
Your "correcvtions" are always unsupported and usually incorrect.
Man, that's hilarious. I just quoted one of the foremost experts on Nazi Germany, William Shirer.
Also, it's not hard to figure that Nazi crackdown on the press could not occur BEFORE Hitler was in power. Sheesh.
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OMG, delusion + Godwin now.
Where do you people get off on thinking there have been no leaks? I'll grab just a couple of them, you are pretty certain to actually read the link, can't say that about everyone here:
http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/2...investigation-and-the-problems-they-may-cause
Set up after set up after set up, the MSM is working with the DNC just like they did with Watergate but they will fail biigly this time. +3 R pickup in the Senate and climbing . . .
Where do you people get off on thinking there have been no leaks? I'll grab just a couple of them, you are pretty certain to actually read the link, can't say that about everyone here:
http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/2...investigation-and-the-problems-they-may-cause
Set up after set up after set up, the MSM is working with the DNC just like they did with Watergate but they will fail biigly this time. +3 R pickup in the Senate and climbing . . .
Actually, I think we've been through this exact minuscule question once before. What difference does it make? Are you arguing that hitler didn't take over the free press?
The House? Looks pretty dismal for the Ds to take it but will know more in a week, after the next wave of primaries. They will have to run the table because there's not that many swing districts left anymore.
"Blue wave", pffft, did the MSM constantly talk up a "red wave" when Obama was president? Just another example of them being MSM cheerleaders.
When it comes to Democrats, they will contradict themselves - they are sooooo sure Hillary is going to win yet they still spy on Trump. Then they put a mole in Trump's campaign and when they get caught, they say they (FBI) say they were trying to protect Trump from Russian influence. WHAT???
And they've gone totally on tilt with this "poor Hamas" routine and the outrage over Trump dissing MS-13 members. That's not a winning message.
"Blue wave", pffft, did the MSM constantly talk up a "red wave" when Obama was president? Just another example of them being MSM cheerleaders.
When it comes to Democrats, they will contradict themselves - they are sooooo sure Hillary is going to win yet they still spy on Trump. Then they put a mole in Trump's campaign and when they get caught, they say they (FBI) say they were trying to protect Trump from Russian influence. WHAT???
And they've gone totally on tilt with this "poor Hamas" routine and the outrage over Trump dissing MS-13 members. That's not a winning message.
No. I'm saying your credibility is shot.
Don't expect people to take things you say seriously if you are going to post that Nazis took over the press in Germany in the first weeks of 1933. Especially after you've been called on it before.
Yet you go on merrily posting false information. Why should anyone believe a thing you post?
I didn't even comment on your ludicrous comparison of Trump to Hitler. As if that wasn't enough to ignore most anything else you post.
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What can I say except WOW!!
As time marches on, and "other" facts emerge, it'll be very enlightening to see if you hold to this "response"!
You know, it blows my mind, my Dad is an old timer, grew up in depression era (HOOVER'S DEPRESSION) Eastern Ky and I attempted to get him to vote to reelect Republican Andy Barr to Congress this fall and he flat out will not ever vote for a Republican. He's as 'yellow dog' as they come. Refuses to see the dems are a bunch of socialists and have left him a loooong time ago. He watches CNN and other MSM but will not watch FOX news and has contempt for Rush.
And his lifestyle and morals and ethics are as conservative as can be. 'Hoover's depression' has marked him for life.
Even the leftist New York Times last week said that after a year of prying by Mueller, there is nothing, absolutely nothing!
There you go, William L. Shirer, the man who spent the prewar years in Germany and was the first to pen that stupendous text about Nazi Germany soon after the war. That was a monumental work and is a must read for anyone who wants to know about the Third Reich.
I've read his book twice, most recently a little over a year ago.
He was in Berlin through the summer of 1940. He fled before he could be arrested by the Nazis on (false) charges of espionage.
He snuck his way into the signing of the surrender of France to Germany in June 1940. His reporting of that was a particularly excellent portion of the book.
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