Imprecatory Prayers - Your View?

[Jedi Knight]

Read I Tim. 2:1-3 to see different.


(v.1)"First of all, then, I urge that entreaties, prayers, petitions, and thanksgivings be made on behalf of all men,....(v.3)This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior...."

What is "good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior" is to pray on behalf of all men, not against men....not that men would die.

peace to youraying:

Sorry,but Psalm 55 is still Gods word too and David was pretty blunt in his petition.

 

[Freedom]

Sorry,but Psalm 55 is still Gods word too and David was pretty blunt in his petition.

I'll take Jesus' commandments over the statements of David any time.

 

[canadyjd]

Sorry,but Psalm 55 is still Gods word too and David was pretty blunt in his petition.

Not sorry, because in I Tim. 2, God is very clear about the attitudes of Christians that are good and acceptable in His sight.

What you are proposing is clearly contrary to what is taught of Christians.

peace to youraying:

 

[canadyjd]

I'll take Jesus' commandments over the statements of David any time.

God's Word is not in conflict.

We can understand them both in the contexts they were written and learn valuable truths.

peace to youraying:

 

[Marcia]

God's Word is not in conflict.

We can understand them both in the contexts they were written and learn valuable truths.

peace to youraying:

I agree! David's words are from God and expressed God's judgment. The words in 1 and 2 Tim are also God's word on how we are to act towards others in certain contexts. Both are from God.

 

[saturneptune]

Um, you could not be more wrong. I know of NO IFB that IS against the war in Iraq, nor were they ever against it.

Yep, I'd pray they get saved before we march in and have to punish them until they submit to the authority we have in protecting ourselves and establishing the same freedom for generations to come or they will DIE.

I think you're misappliying the passage. There is a deadline to trying to win your enemies over, besides, when it comes to turning the other cheek, well, I've only got two, so how many more cheeks should I turn and how many times did we turn the other cheek concerning Sadam?

What I see here is either two things; the first you don't understand the passage, the other is you don't know how much the USA put up with out of Sadam before we acted.

We may have acted speedily in response to 9/11, but it is warranted and should have happened MUCH sooner, like 1996 or something.

If you and everyone you know was for the war in Iraq, why didnt you join up and go help the cause. My guess is you never lifted one finger in service to this nation, nor do you have a clue what price really comes with freedom.

Given that, if you are for the war, you must have been for the inept way it was run, as we have been there longer than WW2. If something is so important to sacrifice American lives, then the idea is to fight to win, win quickly, and exit. You talked about the other poster of not understanding the passage, but you do not understand the issue.

Maybe if you had to sacrifice something close to you for freedom, you would be very careful about throwing around words about war. Maybe you would consider whether or not it was really in the interests of this country to spill American blood. Listen you whimpering cry baby, war is not a video game for your entertainment, it is a matter of life and death.

 

[Freedom]

God's Word is not in conflict.

We can understand them both in the contexts they were written and learn valuable truths.

peace to youraying:

God's word is an accurate portrayal of what really happened. Many call it inerrant. Correct? So the Bible describes David's life and his relationship to God accurately. It also describes the words of Jesus accurately, right. But that doesn't make something David said as important as something that Jesus said does it? If they both were standing here today, who would you listen to most intently? I'd be very careful to hear and understand the words of my Lord. Yes, the Bible teaches us through the life of David. But that doesn't make him the Son of God and his life isn't as important as the life of Jesus.

 

[Jedi Knight]

God's word is an accurate portrayal of what really happened. Many call it inerrant. Correct? So the Bible describes David's life and his relationship to God accurately. It also describes the words of Jesus accurately, right. But that doesn't make something David said as important as something that Jesus said does it? If they both were standing here today, who would you listen to most intently? I'd be very careful to hear and understand the words of my Lord. Yes, the Bible teaches us through the life of David. But that doesn't make him the Son of God and his life isn't as important as the life of Jesus.

I believe all scripture is God breathed and should all be taken in account.

 

[gb93433]

God's word is an accurate portrayal of what really happened. Many call it inerrant. Correct?

Compare
[FONT=&quot]Mark 2:4 Being unable to get to Him because of the crowd, they removed the roof above Him; and when they had dug an opening, they let down the pallet on which the paralytic was lying.
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[FONT=&quot]Luke 5:19 But not finding any way to bring him in because of the crowd, they went up on the roof and let him down through the tiles with his stretcher, into the middle of the crowd, in front of Jesus. [/FONT]

 

[Freedom]

I believe all scripture is God breathed and should all be taken in account.

I believe all scripture should be taken into account as well. I simply believe that the words of Jesus (or God) are the most important part of the Bible.

 

[Jedi Knight]

I believe all scripture should be taken into account as well. I simply believe that the words of Jesus (or God) are the most important part of the Bible.

Well do you believe that all the bible is of Jesus? He is the author........ is he not?:jesus: BTW if you have a red letter bible it should not be mistaken as the only words"in red" of Jesus.

 

[Freedom]

Well do you believe that all the bible is of Jesus? He is the author........ is he not?:jesus: BTW if you have a red letter bible it should not be mistaken as the only words"in red" of Jesus.

Did Jesus make up the stories about all the other Biblical characters? No. I believe that they actually happened. Do you? Do you accept the Bible as truth? If you do, then everyone in the Bible other than a member of the Trinity is merely a man (or a woman). Humans make mistakes. Would you have us follow Peter's example when he denied Christ three times? I wouldn't. I stand on my statement that the words of Jesus or God the Father are far more important than the other statements in the Bible. BTW, Jesus did NOT write the Bible. The original was written by His deciples and followers but many times passed by word of mouth until finally we got a written version. It was inspired of God but it wasn't written by God.

Here's an example of what I'm saying. Is one of the following passages of scripture more significant to you or not?

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Gen 4:18 And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.
Gen 4:19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one [was] Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.
Gen 4:20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and [of such as have] cattle.

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Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

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If you believe these passages are of equal importance please tell me why.

 

[Jedi Knight]

Are they all use the same way and matter...no. Are they of all equal importance I would say yes. You ask why? I will let Jesus affirm it" Scripture cannot be broken" John 10:35. But scripture say we are to rightly divide the word of truth and here is the key to it.

 

[Jedi Knight]

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. I believe its the whole book.

 

[Freedom]

Are they all use the same way and matter...no. Are they of all equal importance I would say yes. You ask why? I will let Jesus affirm it" Scripture cannot be broken" John 10:35. But scripture say we are to rightly divide the word of truth and here is the key to it.

I am rightly dividing the word of truth. Somebody begets somebody is important to the history of the Jewish people but John 3:16 is central to my faith.

 

[Jedi Knight]

I am rightly dividing the word of truth. Somebody begets somebody is important to the history of the Jewish people but John 3:16 is central to my faith.

Only because it came thru the Jews first.