Is all of Mark inspired by God?

[dad2]

when the Bible says, "All Scripture in God-breathed" (2 Timothy 3:16); and "knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture came into being of its own private interpretation. For prophecy was not borne at any time by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke being borne along by the Holy Spirit" (2 Peter 1:20-21), it means that God the Holy Spirit DICTATED His Words to the Writers of the 66 Books of the Holy Bible, and they simply wrote what The Spirit told them to. This is ONE-OFF, and never to be repeated, which makes the Bible UNIQUE as the Only Word of Almighty God! There is not a single verse in the Bible that says any translation can be "Inspired"!

Oh? Just because some were prophets does not mean teachers cannot also be inspired. Of course prophesy requires inspiration of God,. Only He knows the future. All bible prophesy is right from God, of course. All the lessons from all the stories about people are also from God and are for our admonition and benefit to learn from! They are also inspired. The Scripture was inspired. God said greater works than what were seen will we also do. So that involves inspiration also. The gifts and calling of God involve inspiration also! The inspiration and moving of God has not stopped and is not limited to those who He inspired to get the record to us in written form. God breathes a lot. He breathed on Adam.

Relating this to the topic, I see no problem in Mark having written the ending for his inspired book later in life. That would not make it any less or more inspired.

 

[utilyan]

OK, so whatever version we prefer, why would I toss out what some of the book of Mark says?

Because the bible and word of God is perfect.........until someone doesn't want it to be, then you get rid of not only verses but entire books.

 

[SavedByGrace]

Oh? Just because some were prophets does not mean teachers cannot also be inspired. Of course prophesy requires inspiration of God,. Only He knows the future. All bible prophesy is right from God, of course. All the lessons from all the stories about people are also from God and are for our admonition and benefit to learn from! They are also inspired. The Scripture was inspired. God said greater works than what were seen will we also do. So that involves inspiration also. The gifts and calling of God involve inspiration also! The inspiration and moving of God has not stopped and is not limited to those who He inspired to get the record to us in written form. God breathes a lot. He breathed on Adam.

Relating this to the topic, I see no problem in Mark having written the ending for his inspired book later in life. That would not make it any less or more inspired.

what you believe is not taught anywhere in the Holy Bible, the ONLY Inspired, Infallible, Inerrant Word of God to the human race! It is just your personal opinion.

 

[utilyan]

what you believe is not taught anywhere in the Holy Bible, the ONLY Inspired, Infallible, Inerrant Word of God to the human race! It is just your personal opinion.

Except for some of mark apparently. That part aint so infallible and inerrant.

God apparently did not have the power to keep his scriptures clear.

 

[dad2]

Because the bible and word of God is perfect.........until someone doesn't want it to be, then you get rid of not only verses but entire books.

OK, so you seem to be accepting all of Mark.

 

[Berserk]

No, there's not such instruction or declaration of that. But Mark 16:17-18 does say "These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues; they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not harm them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.” But certainly it does not say "anyone who ever lives" can do those things-- but those who have believed.

Note the text does not say, 'If they pick up serpents," but rather "they shall pick up serpents." The wording suggests a deliberate act, not an accident, just as the preceding 2 signs suggest a deliberate intent to cast out demons and speak with new tongues.
The conditional ("if") is only present for drinking poison, but in this context even that need not mean accidental consumption.
Quite apart from that, it is passing bizarre for Jesus to raise snake-handling and poison drinking to the status of actual "signs" of the true believer, when he could have mentioned agape love or other gifts of the Spirit. I suspect that the old manuscript of this Marcan ending that identifies Aristo of Pella as the actual inventor of the passage is correct. The Appalachian snake-handling Pentecostals sadly have some reason to justify their often deadly practice from this text.

 

[dad2]

what you believe is not taught anywhere in the Holy Bible, the ONLY Inspired, Infallible, Inerrant Word of God to the human race! It is just your personal opinion.

False. Inspiration is something we can have. Scripture is His word to man, yes of course. But that does not mean teachers are not inspired also. It goes hand in hand. Teachers will teach according to inspired Scripture. Healers will heal, all inspired by God and according to inspired Scripture.People given the gift of discernment will be inspired by God to have discernment. God inspires faith. The folks God inspired to prophesy were inspired. The lessons in the bible as Paul said were for our benefit. Claiming that is 'nowhere in the bible' is ridiculous. God did say greater works will we do than He did even here on earth. Do you think that involves no inspiration from God?

 

[SavedByGrace]

False. Inspiration is something we can have. Scripture is His word to man, yes of course. But that does not mean teachers are not inspired also. It goes hand in hand. Teachers will teach according to inspired Scripture. Healers will heal, all inspired by God and according to inspired Scripture.People given the gift of discernment will be inspired by God to have discernment. God inspires faith. The folks God inspired to prophesy were inspired. The lessons in the bible as Paul said were for our benefit. Claiming that is 'nowhere in the bible' is ridiculous. God did say greater works will we do than He did even here on earth. Do you think that involves no inspiration from God?

You fail to understand the Uniqueness of the Bible

 

[dad2]

Note the text does not say, 'If they pick up serpents," but rather "they shall pick up serpents." The wording suggests a deliberate act, not an accident, just as the preceding 2 signs suggest a deliberate intent to cast out demons and speak with new tongues.

When they had to cast out demons it was very deliberate! When it says they shall pick up serpents, it does not say 'pick them up people'. It indicates that if people, like Paul did, pick up serpents, God can heal them. When it says people will speak in new languages, we saw that with Peter. That is exactly what God had him do.

The conditional ("if") is only present for drinking poison, but in this context even that need not mean accidental consumption.

The spirit of the text does not say to run around looking for serpents.

Quite apart from that, it is passing bizarre for Jesus to raise snake-handling and poison drinking to the status of actual "signs" of the true believer, when he could have mentioned agape love or other gifts of the Spirit.

No one mentioned snake handling. Paul was not a snake handler. Yet when he picked up a serpent with the firewood (or whatever it was) he was healed by God. That was s sign to the islanders that Paul was from God.

I suspect that the old manuscript of this Marcan ending that identifies Aristo of Pella as the actual inventor of the passage is correct.

Utter speculation.

The Appalachian snake-handling Pentecostals sadly have some reason to justify their often deadly practice from this text.

No they do not. They cannot lift out one verse ignoring the rest of the bible.

 

[dad2]

You fail to understand the Uniqueness of the Bible

No I do not. The bible is unique. Inspiration was never limited to a few people that He used to write the bible. They were inspired to write. Others are inspired to do other things. The bible is not the only inspiration we have. It is the authority, the word of God. No real inspiration anyone has will ever defy that. Those inspired by God will compliment it and work hand in hand with it.

 

[SavedByGrace]

No I do not. The bible is unique. Inspiration was never limited to a few people that He used to write the bible. They were inspired to write. Others are inspired to do other things. The bible is not the only inspiration we have. It is the authority, the word of God. No real inspiration anyone has will ever defy that. Those inspired by God will compliment it and work hand in hand with it.

whatever! you are out of your depth here

 

[dad2]

whatever! you are out of your depth here

No. Inspiration is still available from God. That does not take away from the inspired word of God. What seems to take away from the inspiration of the bible is people saying we should toss out certain parts of it as uninspired.

 

[SavedByGrace]

No. Inspiration is still available from God. That does not take away from the inspired word of God. What seems to take away from the inspiration of the bible is people saying we should toss out certain parts of it as uninspired.

Are you a Pentecostal

 

[dad2]

Are you a Pentecostal

No.

 

[SavedByGrace]

No. Inspiration is still available from God. That does not take away from the inspired word of God. What seems to take away from the inspiration of the bible is people saying we should toss out certain parts of it as uninspired.

so if you write a book, you can claim that God "Inspired" it? then it becomes Infallible, which is IMPOSSIBLE!

You don't seem to understand Biblical Inspiration

 

[dad2]

so if you write a book, you can claim that God "Inspired" it? then it becomes Infallible, which is IMPOSSIBLE!

You don't seem to understand Biblical Inspiration

No. The book deptartment is finished. The bible is the book from God. If anyone writes a book that is inspired today, it must be in agreement with the bible. I find it difficult to think that the bible is mistaken. Mark is an example of how some people think it is mistaken. Should we consider that the people compiling the inspired books somehow mistakenly (or fraudulently) included the last part of Mark? Why would God not oversee that aspect of the bible also?

 

[utilyan]

No. Inspiration is still available from God. That does not take away from the inspired word of God. What seems to take away from the inspiration of the bible is people saying we should toss out certain parts of it as uninspired.

Its obvious scripture is not the authority. The authority is those who decide what is inspired or not and what is scripture or not.

There is no proof Mark wrote Mark. It was traditionally called Gospel of Mark.

 

[dad2]

Its obvious scripture is not the authority. The authority is those who decide what is inspired or not and what is scripture or not.

There is no proof Mark wrote Mark. It was traditionally called Gospel of Mark.

I think you are being sarcastic?

 

[SavedByGrace]

No. The book deptartment is finished. The bible is the book from God. If anyone writes a book that is inspired today, it must be in agreement with the bible. I find it difficult to think that the bible is mistaken. Mark is an example of how some people think it is mistaken. Should we consider that the people compiling the inspired books somehow mistakenly (or fraudulently) included the last part of Mark? Why would God not oversee that aspect of the bible also?

If anyone writes a book that is inspired today, it must be in agreement with the bible

Even if the book "agrees" with the Holy Bible, it is NOT, can NEVER be INSPIRED by God the Holy Spirit!

 

[dad2]

If anyone writes a book that is inspired today, it must be in agreement with the bible

Even if the book "agrees" with the Holy Bible, it is NOT, can NEVER be INSPIRED by God the Holy Spirit!

Says who? We all have a measure of the spirit when saved, no? If we are inspired to write a song, or a poem, or a book, how would that not be inspiration? Even demons inspire some people in their music. Is there no hymn you feel is fairly inspired? Of course any inspiration from God would never oppose the bible. Nor would it overrule the bible.