Is Baptism Necessary for Salvation?

[Martin Luther]

Is Baptism Necessary for Salvation?

I know a couple of people who tell me that even if a person accepts Jesus as their personal saviour, they are not saved until they go through the baptism. I am baptised but is this true or false?

I guess Jesus lied to the thief on the cross....

 

[Amy.G]

Well, the silence is deafening. I guess that means that those of use who do not believe in baptismal regeneration have won the debate.

Ahhh, victory! :laugh: :laugh:

 

[defenderofthefaith]

I guess Jesus lied to the thief on the cross....

When we “handle aright the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15), we see that the thief was not subject to the New Testament command of immersion because this command was not given until after the thief’s death. It was not until Christ was resurrected that He said, “He who believes and is baptized will be saved” (Mark 16:16). It was not until Christ’s death that the Old Testament ceased, signified by the tearing of the temple curtain (Matthew 27:51). When Jesus died, He took away the Old Testament, “nailing it to the cross” (Colossians 2:14).

The word “testament” means “covenant” or “will.” The last will and testament of Christ is the New Testament, which consists of those teachings that apply to people after the death of Christ. If we expect to receive the benefits of the New Testament (salvation, forgiveness of sin, eternal life), we must submit to the terms of the will for which Christ is mediator (Hebrews 9:15), for “where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator; for a testament is of force after men are dead; otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator lives” (Hebrews 9:16-17).

So prior to the Lord’s death and the sealing of the New Testament, New Testament baptism for the forgiveness of sins was not a requirement for those who sought to be acceptable to God. People now, however, live during the Christian era of religious history. Prior to Christ’s death, there were no Christians (Acts 11:26). For a person to reject water baptism as a prerequisite to salvation on the basis of what the thief did or did not do, is comparable to Abraham seeking salvation by building an ark—because that’s what Noah did to please God. It would be like the rich young ruler (Matthew 19) refusing Christ’s directive to sell all his possessions—because wealthy King David did not have to sell his possessions in order to please God.

The thief on the cross could not have been baptized the way the new covenant stipulates you and I must be baptized. Why? Romans 6:3-4 teaches that if we wish to acquire “newness of life,” we must be baptized into Christ’s death, be buried with Christ in baptism, and then be raised from the dead. There was no way for the thief to comply with this New Testament baptism—Christ had not died! Christ had not been buried! Christ had not been raised! In fact, none of God’s ordained teachings pertaining to salvation in Christ (2 Timothy 2:10) and in His body the Church (Acts 2:47; Ephesians 1:22-23) had been given. The church, which Christ’s shed blood purchased (Acts 20:28), had not been established, and was not set up until weeks later (Acts 2).

We must not look to the thief as an example of salvation. Instead, we must obey “from the heart that form of doctrine” (Romans 6:17)—the form of Christ’s death, burial, and resurrection through baptism (Romans 6:3-4). Only then can we be “made free from sin to become the servants of righteousness” (Romans 6:18).

 

[defenderofthefaith]

Well, the silence is deafening. I guess that means that those of use who do not believe in baptismal regeneration have won the debate.

Ahhh, victory! :laugh: :laugh:

So the ones who never shut up are the ones who win?
How foolish.

 

[Amy.G]

So the ones who never shut up are the ones who win?
How foolish.

No. The ones who can't back up their argument with scripture.....lose.

You have yet to comment on Cornelius. (the silence)
He had the Holy Spirit before he was baptized. Do unsaved people have the Spirit of God in them?

 

[TCGreek]

No. The ones who can't back up their argument with scripture.....lose.

You have yet to comment on Cornelius. (the silence)
He had the Holy Spirit before he was baptized. Do unsaved people have the Spirit of God in them?

Amy, according to CoC folks we all need to be rebaptized and joined them. Our faith is not valid until sanction by them.

They say let Scripture speak, but their movement is riddled with human traditions.

They are quick to identify human traditions in those who differ from them but are unable to see the many human traditions in their movement.