Is Christ "completely God, completely flesh"?

Because Athanisus died before Chalcedon existed. So did all of the Apostles. So what????

Athenasus did not write the creed. This is common knowledge (which makes me wonder your education experience....have you ever actually studied theology?)

 

I still stand where I have always stood:

Christ is One Person, two natures, fully God, fully man.

You said that I advocated that Christ is two persons. You could not provide a quote of me doing so. Are you a liar?

You complained of my "reaction" to the Chalcedonan Creed. My reaction is that I agreed with the Creed but did not hold it as an authority of faith because I am Baptist. You could not provide a quote of me rejecting the Creed. Are you a liar?

You rejected the Orthodox Christian doctrine of the Trinity as applies to Christ by claiming that "fully God, fully man" equates to two persons. Are you a heretic?

You bring up Athanasius as if he were the writer of the Athanasius Creed. Are you willfully ignorant (did you intentionally assume he wrote the creed)?

 

@1689Dave ,

On this forum you have demonstrated that you reject Reformed Theology, the Belgic Confession, Calvinism, Arminianism, Presbyterianism, Lutheran Theology., Catholic Theology, and orthodox Christian theology in regards to your doctrine of the Trinity.

On this forum you have denounced Baptist theology with your catholic adherence to select creeds.

So you are not a Baptist, you are not a Calvinist, you are not Presbyterian, you are not Methodist, you are not Reformed, you do not hold Christian doctrine when it comes to the Trinity.....(not that you are not a Christian, I believe you are, but speaking of doctrine).

What exactly are you?

 

You are confused. I never attacked any of the Creeds (to include the Chalcedon Creed). I would if I disagreed with the creeds, but on this account I do not. I find them biblical.

I do not care if anyone attacks the creeds. I do care when members depart from orthodox Christian doctrine. But as a Baptist I do not revere the Creeds or the Counsels as you do.

You have to realize, brother, that this is a Baptist board. I am not sure why you are posting in this section of the forum, but people here are assumed to be Baptist.

For some the creeds accurately express their views. With this topic, I am one of them. Both creeds express my understanding of the Trinity.

I have never expressed Nestorianism. I quoted the creeds as my definition of the Trinity. You take exception to the creeds (and that is fine, I do not force them on anyone). But you are intentionally making false accusations against orthodox Christianity.

Quote one time when I stated that Christ is two persons....or be a liar.

 

I think that you believe that you do. You may subscribe to the 1689 London Confession but you are ignorant of it's history and development. The London Confession is a reformed confession. You have denounced the Reformed position on the nature of Christ and called it Nestorianism. Have you ever read the Belgic Confession. Have you ever read the Canons of Dort? If so then you have read intertwined the doctrines you denounce.

I do believe that you are a Christian. And I do believe that you accept Reformed Theology on your own terms. I even grant that you hold many, perhaps even most, of those things that form Baptist Theology. But you are not a Baptist based on your arguments here. You hold too much of a catholic like adherence to creeds and confessions in terms of establishing your faith and determining what is orthodox to be a Baptist.

 

You do not need to be embarrassed. It is obvious you have never formally studied Christian history and many of those mistakes and assumptions you have made are understandable (like assuming the Athanasius wrote the Athanasian creed, assuming the Chalcedonian creed was the latter creed taken as the measure of orthodoxy, assuming Baptists submitted to the authority of the Ecumenical Counsels).

Do not be embarrassed by your ignorance on these issues. Ignorance is not a matter of shame. Correcting that ignorance, however, is. So take the time to study Baptist Theology (understand why you are not a Baptist) and take the time to study a little Christian history before engaging the topic. Many of your errors could have been easily prevented.